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Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by marcus_holmes »

gonzalohm wrote: post #307
prhn wrote: post #96

I want to buy one just to raise the signal that Linux support is important. When these machines were announced I switched to Fedora as a daily driver on my high end gaming rig. It’s been awesome. I still have to go back to Windows for music production unfortunately. I may switch to Mac for that so I can completely abandon Windows. I run an optical HDMI cable from my office to my TV and get to play games and use Linux…

You are lucky. A lot of the games I play with friends use kernel level anticheat crap that doesn't work on Linux

But you're playing with friends, right? So you don't actually need anticheat at all. Or are you playing with friends and random assholes from the internet?

I'm curious because if a game requires anticheat that means there's an intention that I'd be playing with people who would cheat if they could. And I don't want to have anything to do with people like that. I don't really understand why anyone wants to spend their time playing games with assholes from the internet.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

fdye wrote: post #616
tmoertel wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is a promising solution to scalping. Previously, if you had only small numbers of consoles available at launch, scalpers and their bots would claim a large share of them. With Valve's new policy, that share is reduced to s/g , where s is the number of verified Steam accounts controlled by scalpers and g is the number of legit gamer accounts. Since s is likely to be much less than g , s/g is close to zero,…

I've never understood why anti-scalpers just don't work backwards from shipping address. Are these scalpers all really keeping hundreds of actual physical addresses they can receive packages at? Like if you see the limited product has 100 orders going to the same building, or apartment, or whatever then flag it before it goes out. Limit PO Boxes, etc. Sure they can find mules to buy+receive one and then sell to the s…

Totally doable - I remember talking with a guy that worked at a sports betting company and they flagged any accounts with any duplicated fields as requiring further investigation (to clamp down on gaming bonus bets and deposit matches).

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by deburo »

bitmasher9 wrote: post #502
deburo wrote: post #479

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The disk and memory prices are very high right now. Perhaps they could do a disk-less, memory-less variant.

I was a bit confused by the term “disk” until I realized you’re talking about NVMe. A relic from “Hard Disk Drive”, which was about two persistent storage technologies ago.

Well if you want to be pedantic, your NVMe drive is actually a SSD, nvme being merely a transport protocol. But point taken; I should have said SSD prices.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by mahboi »

izacus wrote: post #244
theshrike79 wrote: post #217

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Xbox Series S/X, PS5 and both Switches are pretty much commodity hardware. Nobody has even hinted that it would be nice to have a 3rd party store or the ability to run whatever OS on them freely. I keep wondering why.

I guess you weren't listening because all of them have healthy homebrew communities and people defeating the DRM. I'm not sure if you're being dishonest or just ignorant of the console hacking scene.

Not going to jump through those hoops to run software

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by jitl »

lfkdev wrote: post #522
jitl wrote: post #509

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and it makes Steam Deck the best console ever made. i picked up Darksiders 3 a few weeks ago to play on my deck. at some point i realized i was pretty underleveled but i didn’t wanna grind. so, opened chatgpt in desktop mode and uploaded my save, asked it to write me a script to set my souls/xp/money to whatever number. it analyzed the save and spat out a bash/python script. after a chmod +x it worked flawlessly. don…

chmod +x makes it executable. Also, at this point just use a trainer

a trainer takes more work and substantially worse security. i can code review 40 lines of shell+python at a glance cannot say the same for most general purpose trainers

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by cainxinth »

koolala wrote: post #288
pseudosavant wrote: post #72

I know the price for PC parts is terrible these days, but $1049 for a 6-core 16GB RAM, with a 512GB SSD, and no controller, is a terrible value. For reference, the PS5 Pro has more than twice the number GPU CUs, an 8-core CPU, a 2TB SSD, a controller, and costs $899.

For reference compare it to a PC.

SM: AMD Zen 4 6C / 12T

PC: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core ($170)

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SM: AMD RDNA3 28CUs 8 GB

PC: AMD Radeon RX 7600 8 GB ($280)

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SM: 16GB DDR5

PC: 2 x 8 GB DDR5-5600 CL40 ($225)

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SM: 512GB NVMe SSD

PC: Samsung 870 Evo 500 GB 2.5" SSD ($283)

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Other parts the PC will need:

- CPU Cooler ($18)

- Motherboard ($100)

- Case ($60)

- PSU ($60)

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SM: $1,049

PC: $1,196

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Post by casey2 »

DOA lol, I built a computer 6 years ago for less with 64GB of DDR5. I can't imagine anyone buying this. Maybe they can hold out for 5 years and add some more ram and sell it for 25% in true Steam fashion.

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Post by Rapzid »

CivBase wrote: post #690
bigtex wrote: post #643

For reference to the current prices of consoles: Nintendo Switch 2 $449.99 Xbox Series S (512GB/1TB) $379.99 – $449.99 Xbox Series X (1TB) $649.99 PlayStation 5 Slim (Digital) $599.99 PlayStation 5 Slim (Disc) $649.99 PlayStation 5 Pro $899.99 From reading posts on X/Twitter, I got the feeling that PC Gaming enthusiasts truly believed this was going to compete with console gaming and those players would flock to the…

Idk why anyone thought this would be a "PC console killer" type of product. Consoles are subsidized because they act as the entry point to closed hardware/software ecosystems. You can't do that with a general purpose PC because it's an open ecosystem by definition. But there are economic benefits to an open ecosystem. The Steam Machine has a gigantic back catalog of games that can be had for cheap. You also probably…

TMK Sony and Nintendo don't lose money on console sales.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by Rapzid »

legitster wrote: post #233
pseudosavant wrote: post #72

I know the price for PC parts is terrible these days, but $1049 for a 6-core 16GB RAM, with a 512GB SSD, and no controller, is a terrible value. For reference, the PS5 Pro has more than twice the number GPU CUs, an 8-core CPU, a 2TB SSD, a controller, and costs $899.

Different value props. The target audience for this already has an extensive Steam catalogue. To buy a PS5 Pro is going to require re-buying all of your games for it. Also, you can build a decent PC for $1049, but getting it into a decent form/noise factor is going to ratchet that price up. Add in the proprietary CEC stuff that Valve has done for it and it's not as terrible as it seems.

> To buy a PS5 Pro is going to require re-buying all of your games for it

Why would I re-buy all the games I own?! The vast majority of people one-and-done games and movies. There are a handful they go back to, and that's it.

CHILDREN replay games cycling through them ad-infimum because their entire concept of time is like 3x less than we've been waiting for the next GTA.

And they don't have money! Adults are the majority of the market now.

Any other behavior from adults, who are seriously time constrained, is niche. And that's fine if someone wants to spend their adult time on earth replaying games, but let's be honest. It's niche.

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