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Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to LTT the original price was in the $800 range, but thanks to Sam Altman it increased to what we saw today.

Don't use LTT as a source for anything. They are mainly an entertainment channel with a giant track record of fuck ups anything data related.

Even taking into account all their fuckups majority of their content is accurate and well sourced. I dont know why people do this thing where they point to a few instances and then extrapolate that out.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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> Why a randomized reservation order? [...] we wanted to create a system that would be less frustrating and more fair for everyone. A launch that starts at a specific day and time tends to reward bots, people with fast internet connections, talented gaming fingers for quick F5/refresh reactions, and those who can schedule their life around that moment. By accepting reservation signups over the course of a few days, w…

> Why a randomized reservation order? Lies, they just want to protect themselves from the German Tank Problem [0] type of analysis. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_tank_problem

I thought about this, and can not tell if you are being serious or not. I can see arguments for either.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be curious how the public would react to a Dutch auction, where Valve launches the console at a $10,000 price tag, and every ~hour drops the price by $100 until they are sold out. It creates the illusion that buyers are "breaking the line" when buying high, so it's their fault (not valves) for the high selling price. This would also eliminate scalpers.

This basically makes the vendor the scalper, and the public would react accordingly.

Right, I think the problem with a lot of the economics-based analyses in this thread is that they rely on the assumption that Valve ought to, or wants to, sell the device at its market value.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#694

I know the price for PC parts is terrible these days, but $1049 for a 6-core 16GB RAM, with a 512GB SSD, and no controller, is a terrible value. For reference, the PS5 Pro has more than twice the number GPU CUs, an 8-core CPU, a 2TB SSD, a controller, and costs $899.

PS5 sells at a loss & makes up the difference collecting rent on a closed system. With Steam you're buying an open system.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/sony-says-499-ps5-no-longer-sells...

That article is from 8 months after it released. Notably it doesn't count the Digital Edition, but I doubt it also got sold at a loss for that much longer.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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The pricing is all out of sorts. Close to $500 more expensive than a PS5 for worse performance. I understand this is a PC and you can do other things with it, but if you're buying a gaming device to play games this is a horrible value.

If you have hundreds of Steam games you bought through sales events, then that changes the calculus a bit.

How many people who are that invested in their Steam library don't already have a mid to upper range PC?

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#700
I think this put this all in perspective for me. If Microsoft came out with this exact hardware (with Windows but still open and you could load SteamOS on it), at this price point, people mock Microsoft to death about how this product is a joke.
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