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Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Besides Wacom, which tablets would you recommend as good quality?

I updated from a screenless Wacom to an XP-Pen screen tablet. The tablet hardware itself is good (but also I moved up several product categories) for less money than the Wacom, but the experience getting it to work on Linux was reminiscent of trying to get wifi to work 15 years ago. I got there in the end, but it was not smooth.

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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I find it interesting that you think this rename serves a purpose when the master to main rename does not. Neither change has any technical reason. The only reason why either name change was desired is because some contributors were upset by the names.

> Neither change has any technical reason. The only reason why either name change was desired is because some contributors were upset by the names. Indeed, neither has any technical reason. I suppose you're right that both changes have a purpose -- one could feasibly convince a company to contribute Linux drivers (a net win for everyone), and the other is a constant annoyance which wastes everyone's time (is this pro…

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Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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> What does "master" mean in a DVCS anyway?

It's the path you're following.

"Following in the path of the master" sounds like a movie I'd watch. "Following in the path of the main", not so much.

YMMV :-)

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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> Well, because it's true: many of the repositories are named after "Wacom". It's a historical legacy on GNU/Linux. It's also a decade-long debate that these repos should be renamed differently. Okay... let's rename them then? I know it's silly, but, well, we've went through the whole pointless `master` -> `main` branch rename in so many projects which was much more disruptive -- at least this one could serve a purpo…

I find it interesting that you think this rename serves a purpose when the master to main rename does not. Neither change has any technical reason. The only reason why either name change was desired is because some contributors were upset by the names.

> Neither change has any technical reason.

This does - few companies want to get into a trademark suit. "Avoiding trademark infringement" is a technical reason.

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Devil's advocate: why should the project have to rename because some companies want them to? That just shifts the window slightly closer to corporate control, something that millions of people worldwide bemoan.

More importantly, why would other companies offer free support for something that will garner free advertising for a competitor?

i was in the market for a drawing tablet. I looked at huion, wanted it, but realized the driver situation was not on par with wacom. I now have a wacom device.

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Besides Wacom, which tablets would you recommend as good quality?

I updated from a screenless Wacom to an XP-Pen screen tablet. The tablet hardware itself is good (but also I moved up several product categories) for less money than the Wacom, but the experience getting it to work on Linux was reminiscent of trying to get wifi to work 15 years ago. I got there in the end, but it was not smooth.

I use an Xppen 24" Pro display tablet. I enjoy using it but my Linux mint machine simply won't boot with it plugged in. I haven't figured out a workaround beyond physically disconnecting both cables every time. And when I boot up and reconnect, my machine never remembers the screen mapping, so there's enough friction there for me to avoid plugging it in for days if not weeks at a time.

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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I meant the binary. With enough patience and spit it should be possible to understand it. And AI can do it while we sleep.

Then you have intellectual property problems, unless they similarly give you permission.

they don't have to give explicit permission though, they just have to not disallow it (which an EULA could do, in the US at least)

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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> it's just a name, who cares This cannot be, naming things is one of the two canonical hard problems.

You've forgotten the 3rd canonical hard problem: off by one errors.

The original joke deliberately says "two hard problems" and then lists three. The "off by one errors" being the 3rd problem is the punchline of the joke.

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Then you have intellectual property problems, unless they similarly give you permission.

they don't have to give explicit permission though, they just have to not disallow it (which an EULA could do, in the US at least)

De-compilation isn't enough to avoid copyright infringement issues, and if there are patents involved, they can also be an issue.

You're always going to basically be stuck asking for permission, which is the essential intent of intellectual property law.

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