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Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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So I started biking recently and was hunting for helmets. And turns out Virgina Tech does a bunch of helmet impact testing and maintains a ranking list https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/ . The latest helmets have a releasable layer that absorbs (converts rotational energy?) more impact. This HUD is pretty slick. In a way, it's more preventative (avoiding accidents) vs. reactive (absorbing impact in an accident) safety w…

> And turns out Virgina Tech does a bunch of helmet impact testing and maintains a ranking list https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/ Thanks for sharing. Interesting to see my Giro (with MIPS) has... 3 stars. Hmmm.

MIPS is a liner that makes the same helmet a bit better.

A crappy helmet with MIPS is a slightly less crappy helmet that may still be worse than a great non-MIPS helmet.

Like upgrading a 1960 motor vehicle death trap’s 2 point seat belts to 3 point. It’ll help, but it’s still a death trap.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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So I started biking recently and was hunting for helmets. And turns out Virgina Tech does a bunch of helmet impact testing and maintains a ranking list https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/ . The latest helmets have a releasable layer that absorbs (converts rotational energy?) more impact. This HUD is pretty slick. In a way, it's more preventative (avoiding accidents) vs. reactive (absorbing impact in an accident) safety w…

Last I knew, several years ago, Virginia Tech tested for concussion prevention and the layer that 'slips' on impact was called the MIPS layer. (Please correct me if that's changed.)

That is important and useful, and is best used in combination with other testing: Bicycling also has many other and more serious risks to cyclist head, including skull fractures, brain damage, and death.

Consumer Reports is another great source (better one IMHO); in their labs they do empirical testing for other outcomes of ~150 helmets, and provide a comprehensive guide to buying helmets:

https://www.consumerreports.org/health/bike-helmets/

In Consumer Reports’ tests, we strap helmets onto “head forms” that simulate the size of a human head, then drop them 14 mph onto a flat anvil to find out how well they withstand impact. An electronic sensor inside the head form monitors the force that would be transmitted to a rider’s skull in an accident.

To ensure the helmet will stay in place during an accident, we test the strength of the chinstraps, attachment points, and buckles by dropping a weight that’s 8¾ pounds and 2 feet so that it yanks on the straps to simulate the force of a crash.

Our testers also evaluate each helmet for ventilation, fit adjustments, ease of use, and other features.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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I'm pretty convinced mips is just marketing. Hair will do the same thing. That's why in rock climbing world, petzl hasn't even bothered with it when they're usually very forward thinking about their designs (first company to do side impact testing).

Exactly. Hair and scalp. Evolution already made a MIPS system. The thing lacking it was the test dummies that Virginia Tech uses, so now they recommend we put it in helmets too.

Or the ground being low traction: dusty/dirt/wet. Harder to control what you land on, but will diminish MIPS’ ROI in many situations.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And turns out Virgina Tech does a bunch of helmet impact testing and maintains a ranking list https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/ Thanks for sharing. Interesting to see my Giro (with MIPS) has... 3 stars. Hmmm.

I'm pretty convinced mips is just marketing. Hair will do the same thing. That's why in rock climbing world, petzl hasn't even bothered with it when they're usually very forward thinking about their designs (first company to do side impact testing).

> Hair will do the same thing.

VA Tech (and others, IIRC) has years of empirical tests that show otherwise. What is your comment based on?

Edit: In fact, if I understand your analysis, humans won't get concussions at all.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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So I started biking recently and was hunting for helmets. And turns out Virgina Tech does a bunch of helmet impact testing and maintains a ranking list https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/ . The latest helmets have a releasable layer that absorbs (converts rotational energy?) more impact. This HUD is pretty slick. In a way, it's more preventative (avoiding accidents) vs. reactive (absorbing impact in an accident) safety w…

oh yea skiing and mountian biking helmets have had mips for years

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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Oh no I forgot to charge my helmet. Also, helmets are meant to be replaced every couple of years as the materials deteriorate (UV/heat) and the protection dissipates. As we like to say, dentist helmet.

> UV

How can I get people to stop laughing at me for tinfoiling my helmet?

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