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Steam Machine launches today

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Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by d3Xt3r »

sailingparrot wrote: post #38

> Why a randomized reservation order? [...] we wanted to create a system that would be less frustrating and more fair for everyone. A launch that starts at a specific day and time tends to reward bots, people with fast internet connections, talented gaming fingers for quick F5/refresh reactions, and those who can schedule their life around that moment. By accepting reservation signups over the course of a few days, w…

> This is nice

But this is not nice:

> This item is not available for purchase in your region

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by lfkdev »

jitl wrote: post #509
sudobash1 wrote: post #103

I am pleased to see hardware not being locked down as a selling point: > Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? It feels very commonsense that you should be able to run whatever you want on the computer that you have purchased, but it is surprisingly uncommon.

and it makes Steam Deck the best console ever made. i picked up Darksiders 3 a few weeks ago to play on my deck. at some point i realized i was pretty underleveled but i didn’t wanna grind. so, opened chatgpt in desktop mode and uploaded my save, asked it to write me a script to set my souls/xp/money to whatever number. it analyzed the save and spat out a bash/python script. after a chmod +x it worked flawlessly. don…

chmod +x makes it executable. Also, at this point just use a trainer

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by oliver66677 »

This is Framework level pricing.

Provides some of the worst value for money on the market ($1,049 with no controller, additional $70 for controller): worse than the PS5 ($599), Xbox Series X ($599), Switch 2 ($449), and DIY PCs.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by Peaches4Rent »

bgirard wrote: post #496
WithinReason wrote: post #458

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here, try your hand at assembling one much cheaper at the same performance: https://pcpartpicker.com/

I don't recognized the CPU/GPU and PC building isn't my field so I could way off. But here's my honest attempt at it without paying a premium for the form factor which isn't an important feature for me: PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3WkCdq Price: $1021

Yeah. That's great,but I think it gets a bit expensive if you try to go small form factor and silent. You need more premium parts for that.

So if you want something small, it's a bit more expensive

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Post by morserer »

fluoridation wrote: post #487
kryllic wrote: post #457

My first thought was "I wonder how this would work as a small-factor game dev machine" and lo and behold, there is a clip of someone working in Godot running a debug version of their game. Very cool to see Valve market this as Linux PC rather than strictly gaming.

It's even worse value for productivity, though, because the CPU is purposely throttled to prevent overloading the thermal solution and the PSU.

I can't find evidence for this anywhere. Can you provide a source?

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Post by d3Xt3r »

prhn wrote: post #96

I want to buy one just to raise the signal that Linux support is important. When these machines were announced I switched to Fedora as a daily driver on my high end gaming rig. It’s been awesome. I still have to go back to Windows for music production unfortunately. I may switch to Mac for that so I can completely abandon Windows. I run an optical HDMI cable from my office to my TV and get to play games and use Linux…

I too want to buy one to support the ecosystem, but sadly, Valve doesn't want me to.

> This item is not available for purchase in your region

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Post by caconym_ »

radium3d wrote: post #46

I imagine Valve Software wanted to release the Steam Machine for $549-$699. The great RAM hoarding of 2025-2026 killed this product on arrival sadly.

> killed this product on arrival sadly.

Rather odd to talk about an as yet unreleased product failing in the past tense.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by InitialLastName »

WithinReason wrote: post #458
branon wrote: post #428

I respect what Valve is doing here and I loved the Steam Deck but a prebuilt desktop PC with 16 GB system memory and 512 GB storage for $1,000+ is insulting. Those are specs that belong on a laptop or a lowend console offering like the Series S. I think this product is going to be hamstrung by its attempts to present as a midpoint between a PC and a console. The way this is being achieved seems to be by selling a dev…

Here, try your hand at assembling one much cheaper at the same performance: https://pcpartpicker.com/

I just did one [0], mostly with regards only to specs and price (rather than quality). It comes out to $150 more, roughly 4X the volume, and about 3 hours more of my time in effort, all to get something that won't be as well-supported by games. What am I missing?

[0] https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KY3VW9

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Post by amelius »

Thaxll wrote: post #482
sudobash1 wrote: post #103

I am pleased to see hardware not being locked down as a selling point: > Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? It feels very commonsense that you should be able to run whatever you want on the computer that you have purchased, but it is surprisingly uncommon.

I mean it's a PC, you can install whatever your want on a PC.

Yes, a Personal computer as opposed to Apple's computer.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by mft_ »

user43928 wrote: post #463
aeturnum wrote: post #433

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This device does sit between mac-mini-esq lower power devices and compact enthusiast builds and, like the Steam Deck, it's an attempt to build a new segment. That said, if you think paying $1000 for this kind of hardware is some kind of exception, I think you should go take a look at what you can get on the prebuilt gaming PC market. You get a little less because the Steam Machine has a small footprint, but if you're…

No it does not. The Late 2024 M4 Mac mini benchmarks x1.6 faster in ST and 2x in MT. The Mac mini costs $600.

The lowest spec M4 Mac Mini on apple.com is $799 today. The next generation Mini will likely be more expensive due to memory pricing, and as the Steam Machine already includes current higher memory pricing, that would be a fairer comparison, no?
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