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Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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Post by strobe »

quietbritishjim wrote: post #38
VirusNewbie wrote: post #8

I agree that the online hackerrank quizes where it isn't even a video call is dumb because so many people cheat and if you don't, you're at a disadvantage. Lots I agree with here, but... > I would promptly remove them from my LinkedIn connections afterwards because I'm exhausted of pointless connections and recruiters. Why would you do something like this, it's just counter productive. I've had numerous recruiters re…

I'd suggest not adding recruiters as LinkedIn connections in the first place. I mean, LinkedIn is hardly sacred, but why are you adding people you don't know as a connection? Recruiters only add you as a connection if they can't afford LinkedIn premium, which is what you need to message people you're not connected to (except for connection requests). That probably means that they're not very successful recruiters.

I heard that recruiters also use amount of connections to filter out candidates, and they probably view it as if you don't have 500-1000 connection probably you just don't fit basic requirements of the the role even with 10+ yoe.

Even is so stupid but looks like in last few years lot of strange metrics like that used more and more.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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Post by AlexandrB »

GTP wrote: post #113
moralestapia wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arts or no arts companies hire you to do X, not to make friends. If you stop doing X you will be fired/not-hired, simple as. You can make friends on your free time.

Go tell HR that you don't give a shit about your coworkers ;)

Why would this bother HR? They don't give a shit about the coworkers either.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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Post by solid_fuel »

aurareturn wrote: post #68
scoopdewoop wrote: post #56

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> No him/her No trans employees? What does that mean? No advocating for yourself at all? No unions? You are ghoulish

Call me ghoulish if you want. If I'm running out of money, out of work for a year, I'm giving you my best attitude. You won't find a more dedicated employee to your business than me. That's the attitude I'm taking to any interview. If the market ever turns favorable for me, then I'll advocate for all those things you deem not ghoulish.

> Call me ghoulish if you want. If I'm running out of money, out of work for a year, I'm giving you my best attitude. You won't find a more dedicated employee to your business than me. That's the attitude I'm taking to any interview.

And again, what does that have to do with pronouns?

> If the market ever turns favorable for me, then I'll advocate for all those things you deem not ghoulish.

If you only stand for things when you think you have the advantage, then you stand for nothing at all.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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Post by radiator »

GolDDranks wrote: post #83

I am currently quitting a company of 10 years of employment. And I keep hearing how everything's shit. Btw. I'm located in Tokyo where it isn't as bad, apparently, but... Let's see. My plan: - Have my own company and start looking for customers. (Rust consulting) - Keep looking for job opportunities, but don't succumb for shit jobs. It might be that I'm too hopeful, but you can't know unless you try. Anyway, I may jo…

why not start looking for customers before quitting?

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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Post by Ralo »

pixelatedindex wrote: post #140
Ralo wrote: post #85

After 5+ years of actively trying to get into the field (pre AI), I left. I threw my degree in the toilet, I closed my linkedin, and I went to go work in the trades as a diesel mechanic. Greatest choice I've ever made. The pay is great, the work is steady, the coworkers are relaxed and not trying to one up each other. I'm now being paid to go to school, and get raises every year until I'm fully ticketed (way more tha…

> I closed my linkedin, and I went to go work in the trades as a diesel mechanic. Love it! A score of years ago, I considered being an auto mechanic after graduating HS but then ended up back in CompSci. Did you have to go back to school? Did you find a shop that would take you in as an apprentice? And if they did, how did you convince them you can/will be good at the job?

I had lots of personal experience under my belt. I built a hot rod out my garage on the cheap (because I was broke and wanted a nice car). I used that on my resume and they were extremely excited on that. The company I work for is famous for their fleet of "show" semis. It's super super cool and I think the mix of my passion for cars mixed well with their eye for details on their fleet.

However, the bar has never been lower.

I didn't want to do automotive, the piece work is a cancer. You'll do 12 hour days and get paid for 8. Not my cup of tea. I was interested in the big stuff. Offroad equiptment sounded cool too.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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Post by aurareturn »

solid_fuel wrote: post #148
aurareturn wrote: post #131

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If I'm a shitty friend, I might give the same advice as what you just said. Just go find a company that is pro-{whatever you're supporting at the moment}. If I think the problem is my friend, I might tell them what I wrote. Having a solid and informed perspective on the world is an important part of being a complete human being. I agree with this and I'd try to inform my long-term unemployed friend of what employers…

> Just go find a company that is pro-{whatever you're supporting at the moment}. You give yourself away when you say things like this. Your phrasing here comes across as if you think that people who support social change are fickle and unprincipled, just following whatever is popular. > I don't come across as someone who doesn't have beliefs, right? I have very strong beliefs in general. Oh you do come across as havi…

  Your phrasing here comes across as if you think that people who support social change are fickle and unprincipled, just following whatever is popular.
No, this is not what I'm saying. I'm saying you need to do everything possible to present yourself as someone who is 100% dedicated to the company and not cause headaches and troubles. Anyone who is unemployed for a year should not be openly talking about controversial things on the internet or interviews or putting that stuff on a resume/blog.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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Post by moralestapia »

GTP wrote: post #113
moralestapia wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arts or no arts companies hire you to do X, not to make friends. If you stop doing X you will be fired/not-hired, simple as. You can make friends on your free time.

Go tell HR that you don't give a shit about your coworkers ;)

Spend some time learning about the concept of the excluded middle[1]. It is something that will be useful on your life going forward, it might even save you a lot of trouble.

I am writing a post about that for my blog but it's still not there so ... check back later? Lol.

Anyway, in this particular scenario, a co-worker not being my friend does not mean we are enemies.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_excluded_middle

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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Post by stockresearcher »

Ralo wrote: post #144
benterris wrote: post #128

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Did you have qualifications / an interest in this field before switching? What drawn you to this occupation in the first place? Just being curious

I'm a car guy, and a computer guy. I wanted a nice car, so instead of racking up mega debt on a $70,000 mustang I bought an old classic car and learned everything. After 5 years I fully restored it on the cheap (less than $10k) and now I've pivoted my career to that.

A long-ago colleague got a junk classic car and took night classes at the local community college to learn how to fix/restore everything. He finished the degree and quit the tech job.

Anyone currently with a tech job can pay for it out of pocket and barely notice. If it’s something someone thinks they may want to do, they should just do it. Nobody says you have to switch jobs at the end.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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Post by jimt1234 »

goatherders wrote: post #119
AIorNot wrote: post #111

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the irony is that McCauley (DeNiro) doesn't actually follow his macho adage as the movie shows in the end..same goes for real developers.

Thats the point of the movie: the organized and disciplined leader didnt follow his own advice while the hot-head reckless gambling degenerate did.

That scene is gold. Neil pauses for a little longer than 30 seconds before he decides to abandon Eady, meaning he followed the intent of his rule (walk away), just not the timing (30 seconds flat). If he made the same decision in less than 30 seconds, he probably would've gotten away.

BTW, 'Heat 2' is pretty good, gives a lot of backstory as well as current-story, mostly about Chris: https://www.amazon.com/Heat-2-Novel-Michael-Mann/dp/00626533...

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