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Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

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Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

#21

They aim to crack China and their reasoning is that the big players haven't got a foothold yet due to being a young-ish market. At the same time they are looking to developers to create native apps for it and hardly anyone is going to develop for a phone if their primary market is China where 99.9% people steal.

"China where 99.9% people steal."

That's a pretty sweeping statement not to be backed by a source with a figure even remotely resembling 99.9%.

Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

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No. There's a lot of options on the mobile space already (iOS, Android and WM8) - which, IMHO is enough (not to mention BB, FirefoxOS, WebOS, Maemo/Symbian/Whatever-Nokia)...

I don't think the prize for the 3rd place has been given out yet. Possible contenders are BlackBerry, Bada, and WP. Symbian still sells ok-ish, but is clearly a dead end. And then there are some new players including Tizen, Sailfish, and Firefox OS. Personally, I'd like to see a properly open alternative do well. Firefox OS would be the best for the web, and Sailfish for Linux in general.

Thanks for remembering Bada :-)

I totally agree there's still a sort of draw for who the third one will be, but I think it's quickly converging towards WP8 due mainly to Nokia's bet on it...

Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

#23

That demo video is terrible. If it really has anything new in it's UI, that guy failed miserably at demonstrating it. Changing the background/ambience is one of the pillars of a "more personal user experience", really? I'd like to understand why this Quartz guy is jizzing all over this company, but the article doesn't help either.

> I'd like to understand why this Quartz guy is jizzing all over this company

Probably been promised a free phone: wait until he gets an old N9 as demo phone without DIY flash instructions.

Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

#25

Did they happen to take a look at the phone market in China? They think it's the only way to go, but unfortunately Android got there first. Open source and free. Everything is going Android there, their own app stores too. Unless they are releasing it for free too then I doubt they will overtake Android in China.

Yes, Android is the first mover in the market and also iOS is quite dominant in the rich areas (BeiShangGuangShen). It is the toughest market to deal with, even with the help of D.Phone... why? They would have to compete with local brands like Meizu and Xiaomi (Android) which release good quality for an affordable price. I expect Jolla wants to aim for the richer group of people, like Vertu does(/did)... but these does not shop at D.Phone...

Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

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No. There's a lot of options on the mobile space already (iOS, Android and WM8) - which, IMHO is enough (not to mention BB, FirefoxOS, WebOS, Maemo/Symbian/Whatever-Nokia)...

"Maemo/Symbian/Whatever-Nokia" is dead, it was killed by Elop.

Sailfish (The software being demo'd) is created by a group of ex "Maemo/Symbian/Whatever-Nokia" devs and is based on that codebase - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailfish_OS

Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

#28
I really think these tile widgets are not useful or easy to understand for an average user.

Apple has it right: iOS is just an app launcher, and there is just one tier of apps, none of this widget-y stuff.

I will note that small read-only changes can be beneficial to the user (calendar shows current day in icon), but I wouldn't dare make someone try and interact with that.

Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

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post #8

No. There's a lot of options on the mobile space already (iOS, Android and WM8) - which, IMHO is enough (not to mention BB, FirefoxOS, WebOS, Maemo/Symbian/Whatever-Nokia)...

"Maemo/Symbian/Whatever-Nokia" is dead, it was killed by Elop. Sailfish (The software being demo'd) is created by a group of ex "Maemo/Symbian/Whatever-Nokia" devs and is based on that codebase - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailfish_OS

They're still releasing some Maemo phones, afaik, no?

All in all, being a Microsoft hater or not, I believe it was a good move, though. Symbian was an old messy pile, and Maemo was just... bad.

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