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Steam Machine launches today

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Post by ApolloFortyNine »

ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #201
sudobash1 wrote: post #103

I am pleased to see hardware not being locked down as a selling point: > Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? It feels very commonsense that you should be able to run whatever you want on the computer that you have purchased, but it is surprisingly uncommon.

That is why the frame will be the most interesting to the people on HN. A VR PC you can do whatever u want with.

You can install whatever apk you want on your Oculus Quest.

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Post by izacus »

theshrike79 wrote: post #217
sudobash1 wrote: post #103

I am pleased to see hardware not being locked down as a selling point: > Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? It feels very commonsense that you should be able to run whatever you want on the computer that you have purchased, but it is surprisingly uncommon.

Xbox Series S/X, PS5 and both Switches are pretty much commodity hardware. Nobody has even hinted that it would be nice to have a 3rd party store or the ability to run whatever OS on them freely. I keep wondering why.

I guess you weren't listening because all of them have healthy homebrew communities and people defeating the DRM.

I'm not sure if you're being dishonest or just ignorant of the console hacking scene.

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Post by butlike »

legitster wrote: post #222
butlike wrote: post #212

The only thing that I get with consoles that I don't get with the Steam Machine is a guarantee; a GUARANTEE that the games I buy will play on the system. If I but a game and it says PS5, I know it will play. A list of specs on the Steam Machine landing page does not absolve this for Valve.

On the Steam store they've done a great job with their certification program for the Steam Deck. Also, I don't think their target market is people who don't own any Steam games yet. It's going to be people with already extensive back catalogues on Steam.

I disagree. I see this becoming an Xbox/PlayStation killer/contender.

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Post by pjerem »

robmccoll wrote: post #32

For reference, a PlayStation 5 is $600-650 for the base models (lower performance than Steam Machine) and $900 for the Pro model (likely higher performance). I know this is a PC and thus an open platform, but for most buyers in living room gaming, that's the competition. I don't think this will reach mass market success, but I'm not sure that was the goal. Who are they selling to? Note: I ask as someone with a Steamd…

Except that unlike a PS5, games are plenty, cheaper, and you probably already have a huge library even before buying it.

I’m not the target but I can see the point.

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Post by izacus »

pseudosavant wrote: post #72

I know the price for PC parts is terrible these days, but $1049 for a 6-core 16GB RAM, with a 512GB SSD, and no controller, is a terrible value. For reference, the PS5 Pro has more than twice the number GPU CUs, an 8-core CPU, a 2TB SSD, a controller, and costs $899.

> For reference, the PS5 Pro has more than twice the number GPU CUs, an 8-core CPU, a 2TB SSD, a controller, and costs $899.

Will it run my Steam library of games or do I need to also pay 5000$ again with inflated prices?

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Post by ErneX »

BoredPositron wrote: post #193
xinayder wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to LTT the original price was in the $800 range, but thanks to Sam Altman it increased to what we saw today.

Don't use LTT as a source for anything. They are mainly an entertainment channel with a giant track record of fuck ups anything data related.

It’s not just LTT

https://bsky.app/profile/papapishu.bsky.social/post/3movfklq...

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Post by ReliantGuyZ »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #235

Why so many USB-A ports and only one USB-C?

Because most PC peripherals (mice, keyboards, microphones, controllers, USB headphones, detachable hard drives) are still USB-A on the other end of their cable. Yes this is changing, but in this case I appreciate them acknowledging the reality on the ground and not creating a situation where there are many dongles afoot.

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Post by benoau »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #148
raincole wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what you mean by 'killed.' It'd be sold out faster than hot cakes.

No way. $1100+ to play games with medium/high settings at 1080p? You can probably buy a prebuilt tower that does better than that at that price.

Mac Mini will handle 1080p very well.
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