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Steam Machine launches today

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Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by debugnik »

imustbeevil wrote: post #124
andy_xor_andrew wrote: post #93

This is a weird thing to call out, when there's so much else to talk about (price, specs, etc) buuuuuut- Check out the gameplay video partway down the page, where the two people are on the couch playing Cuphead. Right under "Your Steam library in more places." It's just... a real clip of real people playing a real game and reacting in a real way. It's funny. I know it's stupid to call out, but how many exaggerated ve…

I'm not sure I understand, I'm just seeing a very clearly staged 2 second clip of product usage and reaction like you'd see in any commercial.

This one is admittedly very natural compared to how cringey they usually get in gaming ads. Which says more about the industry than about this particular clip.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by BoredPositron »

xinayder wrote: post #71
radium3d wrote: post #46

I imagine Valve Software wanted to release the Steam Machine for $549-$699. The great RAM hoarding of 2025-2026 killed this product on arrival sadly.

According to LTT the original price was in the $800 range, but thanks to Sam Altman it increased to what we saw today.

Don't use LTT as a source for anything. They are mainly an entertainment channel with a giant track record of fuck ups anything data related.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by amunozo »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #20
drnick1 wrote: post #15

Can't you build or buy an equivalent (in performance) PC for cheaper? All with upgradable standard parts? I get the appeal of a small form factor, but I am afraid it may not sell well at this price.

I think you would struggle to NOT build a more performant PC for the same price. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/brbFsK This is $50 more but it has 1TB of storage and a newer generation of both CPU and GPU and will absolutely destroy it. I'm sure you could get actually easily cheaper and better even, I haven't followed the market a lot lately. Prebuilt are likely to be even better deals because they will use some cheap…

For me, size and aesthetics play a role. A PC like that is huge and, imo, much uglier. I know a lot of people do not care but I am sure I am also no the only one.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by fullstop »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #148
raincole wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what you mean by 'killed.' It'd be sold out faster than hot cakes.

No way. $1100+ to play games with medium/high settings at 1080p? You can probably buy a prebuilt tower that does better than that at that price.

This is 6x6x6" and can sit on my desk, quietly.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by bjord »

retired wrote: post #179
sudobash1 wrote: post #103

I am pleased to see hardware not being locked down as a selling point: > Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? It feels very commonsense that you should be able to run whatever you want on the computer that you have purchased, but it is surprisingly uncommon.

I do hope they will release drivers for the Steam Machine, otherwise the openness isn’t very useful. Or at least make it possible for others to make drivers by publishing specifications. Edit, reply to bjord as I am rate limited: HDMI CEC, the chipset, GPU drivers, controller receiver etc. Edit, reply to robhlt: Thanks! Hope we can get that ported to Windows

drivers for what else, exactly? valve is already regularly upstreaming work in major open source linux drivers (and has been for a long time)

for example: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Valve-Old-AMD-Linux-Love-Song

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by Rohansi »

mock-possum wrote: post #130
pseudosavant wrote: post #72

I know the price for PC parts is terrible these days, but $1049 for a 6-core 16GB RAM, with a 512GB SSD, and no controller, is a terrible value. For reference, the PS5 Pro has more than twice the number GPU CUs, an 8-core CPU, a 2TB SSD, a controller, and costs $899.

Right, but it’s a PS5, not a PC - you’re paying less for the privilege of letting Sony 100% control what you use the device for, including not being able to play your own games that you’ve paid for. Try doing that on a PC. Try checking your email on your PS5, or steaming the media of your choice.

Even if you only used your Steam Machine to play Steam games it's still probably a better deal. Multiplayer and cloud saves are free so you don't need something like PlayStation Plus. Games are generally cheaper and Steam sales make them even cheaper. You also don't lose access to older games if you get a better system.

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Post by rustyminnow »

imustbeevil wrote: post #124
andy_xor_andrew wrote: post #93

This is a weird thing to call out, when there's so much else to talk about (price, specs, etc) buuuuuut- Check out the gameplay video partway down the page, where the two people are on the couch playing Cuphead. Right under "Your Steam library in more places." It's just... a real clip of real people playing a real game and reacting in a real way. It's funny. I know it's stupid to call out, but how many exaggerated ve…

I'm not sure I understand, I'm just seeing a very clearly staged 2 second clip of product usage and reaction like you'd see in any commercial.

In any other commercial they'd be laughing and grinning ear to ear with their fakest smile instead of wincing from dieing in Cuphead. Definitely still staged but refreshingly so.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by skupig »

byteflip wrote: post #100

My steam deck is underpowered as a living room gaming PC. Wish it was cheaper but would look forward to a “just works” experience including sleep/instant game resume. Add my thousands of already owned Steam games and it makes me excited for a great couch gaming experience. It’s the reason I don’t get a PS5/Switch cause I don’t wanna rebuy all the games and they are not on sale as much.

If you already have a powerful desktop PC in your house, streaming via Sunshine/Moonlight is pretty much perfect these days.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by Rohansi »

retired wrote: post #186
HeavyStorm wrote: post #18

> who are we trying to tell you how to use your computer? Valve is still great.

Isn’t this industry standard? How many PCs have locked boot loaders? Edit, reply to Rohansi as I am rate limited, I’m talking about gaming PCs not consoles.

PS5, Xbox? They're almost PCs and are in the same space as Steam Machine.
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