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Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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Post by fl4regun » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:37 PM UTC

This is a little bit of a tangent compared to the post, but can someone explain to me why it's NOW that we have multiple countries (USA, Canada, UK, Australia, and probably others that I am not aware of) all looking at age verification for a technology (the internet and all the things it lets you access) has existed for over 2 decades, and has been mature for at least 10 years? You could buy illicit drugs and watch porn on the internet since the 2000s, but it's NOW that we're legislating things (in incomprehensibly stupid and hopelessly unenforceable ways)?

The worst part is these are all stupid poorly thought out band-aid solutions to "protect the kids" from platforms that are also detrimental to adults.

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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Post by inigyou » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:37 PM UTC

neither_color wrote: post #18

If we're going to have self-censorship due to everything we say online tied to our real identity can we at least get some shiny buildings and high speed trains out of the deal too? I've been online since early 2000s internet and for all the soapboxing about freedom of speech over the years it seems a foregone conclusion that we'll get the same surveillance state as those other "less free" countries else without anyth…

You can have all that if you immigrate to China.

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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Post by greenavocado » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:37 PM UTC

Has it ever occurred to you that this is intentional?

All those Bilderberg and WEF forums and Peter Thiel's Dialog Club are not for nothing

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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Post by gosub100 » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:38 PM UTC

jandrese wrote: post #26

beachwood23 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a small sign in front of the facial scanner that says "Photo verification not required." You can always say "I decline the photo verification", and they will check your license like back in the old days. This is what I have been doing for years now.

Things may not be quite so simple if your skin color is on the darker side, especially with the current administration. Doubly so if your passport shows you come from a country who's name ends in -stan.

All the previous administrations have extended the patriot act and other laws that enable warrantless spying and collecting data in the name of "security".

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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Post by maerF0x0 » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:38 PM UTC

himata4113 wrote: post #17

I just have obs with a video of mkbhd downloaded playing in a loop, whenever I am asked for age verification I just start the virtual camera, select it at the age verification website and it immediately passes it (most of the time). MKBHD was just the first person that I could come up with that records extremely high res video.

Please post how to do this. Maybe we can combine it with something like https://this-person-does-not-exist.com/en and video generation?

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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Post by inigyou » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:38 PM UTC

Nevermark wrote: post #5

Democracies building the tools of total autocracy. Real but fringe threats used to create the ultimate centralization of leverage. Can we actually think of the children? All the children? Their future? When democracies forget that government is the greatest natural threat to freedom, they forget and undermine the reason we have democracies. Technical solutions to zero-knowledge proofs of age-of-adulthood without loss…

You can just lie by using someone else's ZKP. If that's not considered to be a problem, then the California approach of just asking the device owner is much better and you still don't need the ZKP.

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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Post by MattDamonSpace » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:38 PM UTC

fl4regun wrote: post #31

This is a little bit of a tangent compared to the post, but can someone explain to me why it's NOW that we have multiple countries (USA, Canada, UK, Australia, and probably others that I am not aware of) all looking at age verification for a technology (the internet and all the things it lets you access) has existed for over 2 decades, and has been mature for at least 10 years? You could buy illicit drugs and watch p…

Nefarious actors will always attempt to institute these programs via well-meaning stooges

AI coming along is another “great opportunity” to try and force these programs

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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Post by inigyou » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:38 PM UTC

panny wrote: post #3

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When was the last time someone checked you were vaccinated for COVID?

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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Post by esseph » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:39 PM UTC

fl4regun wrote: post #31

This is a little bit of a tangent compared to the post, but can someone explain to me why it's NOW that we have multiple countries (USA, Canada, UK, Australia, and probably others that I am not aware of) all looking at age verification for a technology (the internet and all the things it lets you access) has existed for over 2 decades, and has been mature for at least 10 years? You could buy illicit drugs and watch p…

Combination of factors, but mostly because Meta is pushing it globally: https://www.reuters.com/world/meta-lobbies-congress-protecti...

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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Post by jh00ker » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:39 PM UTC

At Disneyland, there are separate park entrance lanes that don't use facial recognition software. I like that I can opt-out passively there.

At TSA checkpoints at the airport, you have to actively ask to opt-out.

I'm always worried that actively opting-out puts you on a government list and there could be later, much larger ramifications, so I passively opt-in to blend in with the masses.