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Investors get real-time view of UK bond market activity for the first time

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Re: Investors get real-time view of UK bond market activity for the first time

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Well, yes, but after maximizing an ISA that's still an option. Also the government is clamping down on cash ISA.

I think they're clamping down on cash held in Stocks and Shares ISAs, not Cash ISAs.

As the government wants to encourage people to be invested and not hold cash, from '27 you'll only be able to add 12k in Cash ISA. They are planning to also change the limit on cash held on S&S ISAs to avoid an easy workaround for this limit

Re: Investors get real-time view of UK bond market activity for the first time

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There really isn't a lot of slack in the welfare system unless you're prepared to be very short sighted and go back to "tent city" levels of homelessness. Which is partly why all previous attempts to cut it have failed. Maybe declaring certain areas of high rent off-limits for housing benefit, but then you have to raise the salaries of NHS staff and teachers living in London so they can afford to work there. Maybe if…

Yeah but the VAT on school fees meant a load of those children had to go to state schools so we ended up paying for it anyway.

A rough calculation: £8,580 funding per child at state school, ~90,000 less in private schools and in state schools so about £770 million more required for state school funding and this measure is supposed to bring in about £1.7 billion a year...

So it looks like it would pay for itself?

Edit: We don't charge VAT on private healthcare - so charging it on private education looks a bit inconsistent to me.

Re: Investors get real-time view of UK bond market activity for the first time

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I spent the entire day yesterday trying to set up some automated monitoring of my investments, only to discover most UK market information is locked behind stupid-money APIs. Anything that improves that situation is a positive.

That's normal in markets and it even makes sense. Think about it: shouldn't the market be funded by charging fees to the extremely wealthy participants? The alternative is that it's taxpayer funded, which is a tax subsidy to extremely wealthy participants.

Only the extremely wealthy participate in the UK? That is most certainly not the case in the US, where your average salaried employee has most of their retirement invested in the market

Re: Investors get real-time view of UK bond market activity for the first time

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That's normal in markets and it even makes sense. Think about it: shouldn't the market be funded by charging fees to the extremely wealthy participants? The alternative is that it's taxpayer funded, which is a tax subsidy to extremely wealthy participants.

Only the extremely wealthy participate in the UK? That is most certainly not the case in the US, where your average salaried employee has most of their retirement invested in the market

Ehh to be clear even in the US certain markets like bonds are not always that transparent.

Re: Investors get real-time view of UK bond market activity for the first time

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Yeah but the VAT on school fees meant a load of those children had to go to state schools so we ended up paying for it anyway.

A rough calculation: £8,580 funding per child at state school, ~90,000 less in private schools and in state schools so about £770 million more required for state school funding and this measure is supposed to bring in about £1.7 billion a year... So it looks like it would pay for itself? Edit: We don't charge VAT on private healthcare - so charging it on private education looks a bit inconsistent to me.

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Re: Investors get real-time view of UK bond market activity for the first time

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I spent the entire day yesterday trying to set up some automated monitoring of my investments, only to discover most UK market information is locked behind stupid-money APIs. Anything that improves that situation is a positive.

That's normal in markets and it even makes sense. Think about it: shouldn't the market be funded by charging fees to the extremely wealthy participants? The alternative is that it's taxpayer funded, which is a tax subsidy to extremely wealthy participants.

Several such APIs include the equivalent data for US markets in their free tier, for personal use.

Re: Investors get real-time view of UK bond market activity for the first time

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Seems like a bit of a false dichotomy- other alternatives are regulatory requirements or taxes that force or allow the api to be provisioned

You can force markets to make an open API funded by participants, but you can't make it fully open (open API and open participation) if you don't want tax funding because then there's no funding source left. Maybe you decide a fully open market is worth being tax funded, though it's still mostly going to benefit very rich people.

Why is "no tax funding" a hard requirement? I would think the lowest cost to get that market information publicly shared and forthcoming (and thus increasing the efficiency and effectiveness of the market), would be for a government dept to operate the frontend distribution, but require regulatory submissions of transaction data within reasonable latency windows. It's just a modern form of say US SEC document submissions and EDGAR to distribute.

Re: Investors get real-time view of UK bond market activity for the first time

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I spent the entire day yesterday trying to set up some automated monitoring of my investments, only to discover most UK market information is locked behind stupid-money APIs. Anything that improves that situation is a positive.

If it's just for personal use see if your bank/broker has an API for market information. Most do even if it's not advertised.

Also some resellers of market information are pretty affordable for personal use.

Re: Investors get real-time view of UK bond market activity for the first time

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Seems like a bit of a false dichotomy- other alternatives are regulatory requirements or taxes that force or allow the api to be provisioned

You can force markets to make an open API funded by participants, but you can't make it fully open (open API and open participation) if you don't want tax funding because then there's no funding source left. Maybe you decide a fully open market is worth being tax funded, though it's still mostly going to benefit very rich people.

I don't see why you can't do that?

There's plenty of things that cost money that legislation forces companies to do anyway, regardless of if there is a 'funding source' or not.

Although this particular one is from the FCA so presumably is taxpayer funded anyway.

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