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Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Just one more minister, I promise you, just one more and all politics will resolve. Come on, just one more and it will fix everything. Please just one more. One more minister and we can fix the whole problem.

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Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

#43

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There is one thing that might be in his power: to stop censoring and arresting people protesting against genocide. Edit: lol thanks HN for the usual downvote! :) I love this place!

You mean Palestine Action specifically, because the leadership of that group are violent terrorists. It's weird how you people never notice that NOBODY else is "arrested"

Over 2,000 middle aged women have been arrested as terrorists on the basis of holding protest signs though, it's been widely reported.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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The issue isn’t the Labour Party it’s the entire country. Brexit has been a disaster, energy costs are through the roof, housing is becoming more costly, and there’s been no real economic growth in a decade. But no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it. They just want to grumble and say the current leader isn’t any good before moving onto the next one, rather than admitting they…

> no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it If you could get one bill through Parliament, what would it do?

Most of the real power is in the budget, which is technically a bill, but I would 100% go for "change the voting system". Almost anything except D'Hondt is better than FPTP; for simplicity, we could just copy the Scottish Parliament's use of AMS.

I would also insert a trapdoor that future changes to the voting system would require the approval of >50% of eligible voters, including non-voters. Yes, I know Parliament cannot bind its successors and all that, but at least I can make it look bad to change it again.

Does this solve any of the immediate problems? No. Does it solve the dysfunctionality since 2008? I think so, especially given that polling these days looks like five parties getting 20% of the vote each. Labour themselves came to power on 38% of the vote.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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> no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it If you could get one bill through Parliament, what would it do?

Rejoin the EU, single market, customs union, drop sterling and take the Euro. This would almost certainly start a civil war in the UK (I am not being dramatic) but its what is needed. Brexit was -8% GDP, according to Bank of England.

This wouldn't start a civil war. Many of the Brexit voters are already dead and most of the rest are retired.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

#46

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You mean Palestine Action specifically, because the leadership of that group are violent terrorists. It's weird how you people never notice that NOBODY else is "arrested"

Over 2,000 middle aged women have been arrested as terrorists on the basis of holding protest signs though, it's been widely reported.

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Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

#47

Ridiculous and undemocratic. Burnham (for those who are unaware) can be best described as a Tony Blair B-side, and is most notable from his previous stint in government for his role in the Private Finance Initiative disaster, eg: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/jun/28/labour-debt-peter...

Why undemocratic? I thought parliamentary elections in UK worked like in most of Europe: you vote for a party, not a candidate.

At least here, it already happened, to have the PM resigning and then someone else from the party to pick up the role and that’s legally sound.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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A completely pointless exercise for all involved. Rearranging deck chairs of the titanic that is the labour party.

The issue isn’t the Labour Party it’s the entire country. Brexit has been a disaster, energy costs are through the roof, housing is becoming more costly, and there’s been no real economic growth in a decade. But no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it. They just want to grumble and say the current leader isn’t any good before moving onto the next one, rather than admitting they…

People are desperate for change! It's just that due to a misinformation fuelled online (and traditional media!) environment, nobody can agree what that is.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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> no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it If you could get one bill through Parliament, what would it do?

Rejoin the EU, single market, customs union, drop sterling and take the Euro. This would almost certainly start a civil war in the UK (I am not being dramatic) but its what is needed. Brexit was -8% GDP, according to Bank of England.

Yea no will never happen.

Only way into the EU is way you described. Full on Schengen, EUR, no more special UK exceptions etc. Will never fly.

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