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Re: Help I accidentally a wigglegram
#72Good idea, but the discovered image sequences are very different from the deliberately created examples at the top of the page.
Images at the top of the page are created using a Nimslo/Nishika camera [1] it's a 35mm 4 lens camera that takes all 4 shots at once so you get that satisfying rotating depth look at them.
It's really a completely different effect to just stitching a few different photos together.
[1] https://fstoppers.com/film/worst-camera-ive-ever-loved-nishi...
Re: Help I accidentally a wigglegram
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's been a move towards using MP4 files instead of GIFs because the filesize is smaller, despite MP4 being patent encumbered.
there are vp9 and av1 as well
for gifs? it seems an image format would be more backward compatible with older devices. Edit: by image format, i meant lightweight animation without a video codec.
Re: Help I accidentally a wigglegram
#74Could these use some frame interpolation and smoothing to make them less jerky? Or would that make them just a video clip then? The first couple of examples were good but later examples were not so impressive. I think the later examples suffered from having too little of perspective change between frames and too much of subject movement -- which defeats the illusion of 3d from a "static" image. Ideal one would have a…
I also noticed on the wikipedia gallery theres an example that repeats frames for smoothness! 1-2-3-4-3-2 makes it naturally smooth if you have more than two frames.
Re: Help I accidentally a wigglegram
#75How is the first one done? It seems like the cartons would fall faster than you could manually capture 2-3 images? (super cool all around, thanks for sharing)
It's tech from the 80s. Look up the Nishika N8000 and Nimslo 3D. Basically it's multiple lenses next to each other, each capturing a small slice on the 35mm film. Every lens has it's own shutter, which is triggered at exactly the same time. This wasn't too involved and quite cheap to implement with analog tech in the 80s/90s, but if you want to do the same thing with digital there's quite a bit more to consider. Here…
There is also the Fujifilm FinePix REAL 3D which is a 2 lens digital version of the idea. But yeah I do think the analogue grain is doing some heavy lifting on the aesthetic side of the Nishika/Nimslo images.
Re: Help I accidentally a wigglegram
#76This is what happens when you let the frontend team name things
Meanwhile non-frontend folks decide to call one thing "threads" and another thing "strings" and have them be completely unrelated to each other.
Re: Help I accidentally a wigglegram
#77This would make a nice add-on for Digikam, which already does perceptual image hashing.
I read that they used artisanal code(!) - did they write a new image hashing algo, or use an established one?
Re: Help I accidentally a wigglegram
#78This title no verb
Re: Help I accidentally a wigglegram
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
there are vp9 and av1 as well
for gifs? it seems an image format would be more backward compatible with older devices. Edit: by image format, i meant lightweight animation without a video codec.
hi initramfs, i responded to robottoaster who referenced patent encumbered mp4, as alternatives there are vp9 and av1.
image formats are more backward compatible, but at some point one has to ask, how low do you want to go? vp9 plays on iphones from 2020 and android phones from 2010. I think animated avif files are basically av1 video files, like animated webp is vp8/9 video.
Animated gif is playable anywhere, but 10x bigger. For a wiggle blog or website I'd provide animated png alongside anaglyph, or anaglyph only.
There is also animated Jpeg XL *.jxl files for the bleeding edge. It's a pure image format but support is not there yet.
Re: Help I accidentally a wigglegram
#80On my Pixel phone I always leave enable the "Top Shot" setting, it saves a short low resolution video clip in the XMP/RDF metadata of the JPEG file. It saves motions that are not visible on a still image adding valuable information. iPhones and Samsungs have similar settings.
Live Photos are what iPhones call it and I love them. I made an app to turn them into GIFs, I often make wigglegram GIFs out of them. "Giffer" on the App Store[0] if any readers are interested.