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Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Post by rapsey »

stirlo wrote: post #11
rapsey wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A completely pointless exercise for all involved. Rearranging deck chairs of the titanic that is the labour party.

The issue isn’t the Labour Party it’s the entire country. Brexit has been a disaster, energy costs are through the roof, housing is becoming more costly, and there’s been no real economic growth in a decade. But no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it. They just want to grumble and say the current leader isn’t any good before moving onto the next one, rather than admitting they…

Disagree. Every one of the issues you mentioned is a direct result of labour/tory uniparty ideology. Netzero, endless migrants, insane taxation and so on.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Post by reedf1 »

OgsyedIE wrote: post #14

Whilst the value of the pound and NHS backlog did slowly improve under Starmer, my favourite part of his term was the 2024 interview where he described himself as not dreaming or having internal thoughts. I don't expect huge improvements under Burnham but I hope for at least some police manpower numbers to recover. There have been intermittent stories of planning, FSA and trading standards personnel being threatened…

I know you probably didn't mean it that way - but people with aphantasia are often very creative, and visionary despite.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Post by Y_Y »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #17
stirlo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue isn’t the Labour Party it’s the entire country. Brexit has been a disaster, energy costs are through the roof, housing is becoming more costly, and there’s been no real economic growth in a decade. But no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it. They just want to grumble and say the current leader isn’t any good before moving onto the next one, rather than admitting they…

> no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it If you could get one bill through Parliament, what would it do?

Disband the UK

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Post by rapsey »

reedf1 wrote: post #22
OgsyedIE wrote: post #14

Whilst the value of the pound and NHS backlog did slowly improve under Starmer, my favourite part of his term was the 2024 interview where he described himself as not dreaming or having internal thoughts. I don't expect huge improvements under Burnham but I hope for at least some police manpower numbers to recover. There have been intermittent stories of planning, FSA and trading standards personnel being threatened…

I know you probably didn't mean it that way - but people with aphantasia are often very creative, and visionary despite.

Well that sure as hell does not describe starmer.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Post by mytailorisrich »

mellosouls wrote: post #18

Ridiculous and undemocratic. Burnham (for those who are unaware) can be best described as a Tony Blair B-side, and is most notable from his previous stint in government for his role in the Private Finance Initiative disaster, eg: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/jun/28/labour-debt-peter...

Agree with your first sentence but he is described as being on the very left wing of the party and, if he becomes PM, it will be with the support of the left wing, not the blairites.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Post by dabeeeenster »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #17
stirlo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue isn’t the Labour Party it’s the entire country. Brexit has been a disaster, energy costs are through the roof, housing is becoming more costly, and there’s been no real economic growth in a decade. But no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it. They just want to grumble and say the current leader isn’t any good before moving onto the next one, rather than admitting they…

> no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it If you could get one bill through Parliament, what would it do?

Rejoin the EU, single market, customs union, drop sterling and take the Euro. This would almost certainly start a civil war in the UK (I am not being dramatic) but its what is needed.

Brexit was -8% GDP, according to Bank of England.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Post by roenxi »

stirlo wrote: post #11
rapsey wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A completely pointless exercise for all involved. Rearranging deck chairs of the titanic that is the labour party.

The issue isn’t the Labour Party it’s the entire country. Brexit has been a disaster, energy costs are through the roof, housing is becoming more costly, and there’s been no real economic growth in a decade. But no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it. They just want to grumble and say the current leader isn’t any good before moving onto the next one, rather than admitting they…

There shouldn't be any temporary pain from bringing energy costs down or letting the economy grow (on a per-capita basis I suppose, politicians do tend to try and cheat with migration). It would be good for everyone, or at worst neutral with wildly rare exceptions who are worse off. Which does make it a bit of a mystery why the UK and a number of other Western polities put up such a determined struggle against the two.

Re: Britain's prime minister to step down, Burnham puts himself forward as successor

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Post by PaulHoule »

cryo32 wrote: post #26

Might as well just hand Farage the next general election at this rate. The last decade has been personality cult after personality cult. We had the start of stability and have thrown chaos in again. Just what the opposition want.

You mean Starmer has a personality?
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