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Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by crote »

mrob wrote: post #82

As somebody who enjoys listening to beatmatched DJ mixes, I'm glad I don't have "perfect" pitch. I'd hate to have vast amounts of music sound "wrong" just because the speed and pitch was changed slightly to synchronize it with other tracks. Relative pitch is very important for musicians, but absolute pitch is mostly useless. The only use I can think of is singing songs with a cappella intros, so you're in tune with t…

Doesn't most DJing software support constant-pitch speed adjustment?

Pitch and speed are inherently linked when you are dealing with physical vinyl, but time-stretching in software isn't too complicated.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by neumann »

capplexham wrote: post #74
est wrote: post #69

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wat? what is yello, red or blue?

Click "Show Options", then: - Check "Show chords on piano?" - Check "Play chord sounds" - Uncheck "Play feedback sounds" For the "Chords", start with just Red and Blue. Then add Yellow. I don't have perfect pitch, and I could not distinguish between Red and Blue, when Yellow was in the mix and the feedback sounds interrupted the trials. Black and Green were much easier for me to differentiate, but Red / Blue is reall…

Red and Blue were so hard for me!

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by mrob »

crote wrote: post #91
mrob wrote: post #82

As somebody who enjoys listening to beatmatched DJ mixes, I'm glad I don't have "perfect" pitch. I'd hate to have vast amounts of music sound "wrong" just because the speed and pitch was changed slightly to synchronize it with other tracks. Relative pitch is very important for musicians, but absolute pitch is mostly useless. The only use I can think of is singing songs with a cappella intros, so you're in tune with t…

Doesn't most DJing software support constant-pitch speed adjustment? Pitch and speed are inherently linked when you are dealing with physical vinyl, but time-stretching in software isn't too complicated.

>Doesn't most DJing software support constant-pitch speed adjustment?

Modern software does, but there's always the risk of introducing artifacts, and I like older music that's usually mixed with pitch shifting.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by globular-toast »

stavros wrote: post #72
JSR_FDED wrote: post #22

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Pitch is another word for throw. The joke is that a perfect throw is one where a banjo Is thrown into the trash (this is already funny if you consider how careful musicians are with their instruments), and what makes it a perfect throw is that it lands on an accordion (the fact that the accordion is already in the trash is also funny) and the fact that one shitty instrument landing exactly on another shitty instrumen…

Ahh thanks, I didn't consider that pitch is a synonym for throw.

Yeah. I'm British and didn't get it either. Never heard anyone say "pitch" to mean "throw". I've heard it used in baseball but thought it was a technical term like "bowling" in cricket rather than a general word for throw.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by stavros »

globular-toast wrote: post #94
stavros wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahh thanks, I didn't consider that pitch is a synonym for throw.

Yeah. I'm British and didn't get it either. Never heard anyone say "pitch" to mean "throw". I've heard it used in baseball but thought it was a technical term like "bowling" in cricket rather than a general word for throw.

Yeah, exactly the same for me. Or I've heard it as "pitch a tent", where I assume it's used as "set the tent up", not "throw the tent".

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by jayknight »

mrob wrote: post #82

As somebody who enjoys listening to beatmatched DJ mixes, I'm glad I don't have "perfect" pitch. I'd hate to have vast amounts of music sound "wrong" just because the speed and pitch was changed slightly to synchronize it with other tracks. Relative pitch is very important for musicians, but absolute pitch is mostly useless. The only use I can think of is singing songs with a cappella intros, so you're in tune with t…

A little niche, but that would be handy while directing an a capella choir. Giving starting pitches without a pitch pipe or tuning fork would be useful.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by a1o »

utopiah wrote: post #67

Thanks OP, I was going to annoy you with a bunch of request, e.g. "Can I please just get the .apk because I use GrapheneOS without the PlayStore?" then I thought "looks simple enough, maybe I a Web page is enough... no app required" which lead me to https://eguchi.app ... so instead I'll just both you with : what do you think about this alternative? Is it any good?

It looks like it is based on this https://github.com/pganssle/cim, which I think is this web app

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by mathieuh »

somenameforme wrote: post #60
NobodyNada wrote: post #7

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I'm a musician who doesn't have absolute pitch, but does have very strong relative pitch. My understanding is that perfect pitch is neat party trick, but actually a hindrance instead of a help in most musical circumstances. Relative pitch, on the other hand, is incredibly useful (and fortunately you can train and develop it later in life). Because most people don't have perfect pitch, (Western) music is built on the…

Somehow this makes me think of the differences between tonal and inflective languages. Learning a tonal language can be brutal for a person who's used to expressing emotion/inflections through tone, and there is nothing more frustrating than trying to speak to somebody when saying a word phonetically correct but in a slightly wrong tune and, to them, what you're saying is completely incoherent. The tonal speaker hear…

I guess you can get a bit of an idea of what this is like by listening to French people speak English. French doesn’t have phonemic syllable stress like English does and so French people often make mistakes with this. For a native English speaker the syllable stress is an integral part of the word and being phonemic it actually distinguishes between two words that otherwise sound the same. The commonest category of this would be words that change between verb and noun depending on the stress, like “reject”, “protest”, “transfer” etc. And there are other minimal pairs like “insight” vs “incite”.

The native English (many other Indo-European languages also have similar systems) speaker is very unlikely to make a pronunciation mistake in this manner but even very accomplished francophone speakers of English struggle with it even after being corrected.

For example here’s French cabinet minister Bruno Le Maire pronouncing “damages” as “daMAges” https://youtu.be/qKWFsg5uHKo

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by kome »

mrob wrote: post #82

As somebody who enjoys listening to beatmatched DJ mixes, I'm glad I don't have "perfect" pitch. I'd hate to have vast amounts of music sound "wrong" just because the speed and pitch was changed slightly to synchronize it with other tracks. Relative pitch is very important for musicians, but absolute pitch is mostly useless. The only use I can think of is singing songs with a cappella intros, so you're in tune with t…

people with perfect pitch can recognize when pitch has been shifted, but it's not like they perceive it (necessarily) as wrong or annoying - it's a matter of taste. most of them can still enjoy microtones, detuned tracks, and beatmatched dj mixes just like everybody else.
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