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Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Thanks OP, I was going to annoy you with a bunch of request, e.g. "Can I please just get the .apk because I use GrapheneOS without the PlayStore?" then I thought "looks simple enough, maybe I a Web page is enough... no app required" which lead me to https://eguchi.app ... so instead I'll just both you with : what do you think about this alternative? Is it any good?

wat? what is yello, red or blue?

If you click "Show Options" it'll show colors of the chords in order: red is C-major for example

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can someone explain this? I don't get it.

Pitch is another word for throw. The joke is that a perfect throw is one where a banjo Is thrown into the trash (this is already funny if you consider how careful musicians are with their instruments), and what makes it a perfect throw is that it lands on an accordion (the fact that the accordion is already in the trash is also funny) and the fact that one shitty instrument landing exactly on another shitty instrumen…

Ahh thanks, I didn't consider that pitch is a synonym for throw.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Thanks OP, I was going to annoy you with a bunch of request, e.g. "Can I please just get the .apk because I use GrapheneOS without the PlayStore?" then I thought "looks simple enough, maybe I a Web page is enough... no app required" which lead me to https://eguchi.app ... so instead I'll just both you with : what do you think about this alternative? Is it any good?

aurora store isan option.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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post #69
post #67

Thanks OP, I was going to annoy you with a bunch of request, e.g. "Can I please just get the .apk because I use GrapheneOS without the PlayStore?" then I thought "looks simple enough, maybe I a Web page is enough... no app required" which lead me to https://eguchi.app ... so instead I'll just both you with : what do you think about this alternative? Is it any good?

wat? what is yello, red or blue?

Click "Show Options", then:

- Check "Show chords on piano?"

- Check "Play chord sounds"

- Uncheck "Play feedback sounds"

For the "Chords", start with just Red and Blue. Then add Yellow.

I don't have perfect pitch, and I could not distinguish between Red and Blue, when Yellow was in the mix and the feedback sounds interrupted the trials.

Black and Green were much easier for me to differentiate, but Red / Blue is really difficult.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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I've seen articles that say that absolute perfect pitch is a curse, not a gift, because it wanders with age, and then everything is "out of key".

I'm a musician who doesn't have absolute pitch, but does have very strong relative pitch. My understanding is that perfect pitch is neat party trick, but actually a hindrance instead of a help in most musical circumstances. Relative pitch, on the other hand, is incredibly useful (and fortunately you can train and develop it later in life). Because most people don't have perfect pitch, (Western) music is built on the…

> in any key

I learned this is especially valuable when switching between instruments with different constrained ranges (you can just adapt), as well as your voice changing over time.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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> Young children can acquire absolute (perfect) pitch — but adults cannot. The window closes around age 6. I found some papers suggesting it is possible for adults, but more difficult. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31550277/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31686378/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/388931575_Learning_...

You will probably claim it's not "real" perfect pitch, but many people use their tinnitus to help them. They identified their ring as having, for example, F#, and suddenly their relative pitch became absolute.

I've seen nothing to convince me that "absolute pitch" is anything other than relative pitch with excellent recall or persistent observation of pitch.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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I’m just being jealous, but isn’t absolute pitch relative to the current tuning standard? What happens with orchestras tuned at 442 Hz? Reading comments from people with absolute pitch, it can be more an annoyance than a blessing.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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What I dislike about this method is that it seems to be focussed on A=440 Hz, which is arbitrary. I assume that if the learner drifts later in life by under a semitone, then things will seem like they're between keys.

Is there anything about notes and instruments tuning that is not arbitrary? But hear me out: there's few hundred years tradition behind it, at least in the west, so why not follow it for a kid?

"I assume that if the learner drifts later in life by under a semitone, then things will seem like they're between keys." - problem that never occurred to anyone with a perfect or just good pitch.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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> Young children can acquire absolute (perfect) pitch — but adults cannot. The window closes around age 6.

What?

That doesn’t sound true at all.

Jude Kofie started the piano at the age of 8. But music prodigy apart, I defintely don’t have perfect pitch right now, but I am very confident that I could with some training.

Like, when I sing a song without music, I usually am very close to the right tone. Mostly because I intuitively know how my voice is supposed to feel (the vocal chords move differently based on the tone).

And I can clearly ear the different “colors” between different scales.

And when I play the guitar a lot, after a month or so I start to be able to know where a note I hear is on the guitar.

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