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Re: Renting a sewing machine from the library

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I hate and avoid homeless people. They're often in the library. Therefore... I've had this idea for a business kicking around for awhile, basically a private library with membership fees. It would have all the accomodations you wish a library would have but that it can't have due to being public commons, like free coffee, private reading rooms, locker storage, and of course no vagrants.

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What? I’d love to be able to borrow a sewing machine, tools, etc. I live in a small flat and I don’t need permanent ownership of those things. They spend 99.5% of the time sat taking up space. What good is that? For a lot of machines it’s not good to leave them idle, or sat in a shed collecting mould and rust.

It is exactly what the WeF meant too. The opposite world is one where we can own what we want at any point in time, kinda like in the past. They say that is unsustainabl... I just disagree-I think it would be great if each generation would be better of than the last.. You are happy in your tiny flat not owning that much... I'm not disputing that. I just say that is what the wef predicted would happen. That is all. I'…

I think it makes a world of a difference who owns the stuff people only borrow. This article is about public libraries, socially funded through a democratic will to do so, to ensure the broadest and most affordable access to anyone, particularly those who couldn't otherwise afford to buy or rent these things. Very similar to informal pools of people lending each other stuff to save money.

The quote you're referring to, or at least that interpretation of it, as I understand it, is about for-profit entities restricting ownership by only renting out their products, maximizing the amount of money they can extract.

Those seem like two almost polar opposites. I'd bet the "owning class" is not very happy about the existence of libraries. (See, for example, Hachette, Wiley, Harper Collins, Penguin Random House & Co.'s legal efforts to get rid of them.)

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I'm sorry, but that's not a library. It is useful, but calling these centers "libraries" just accelerates the death of actual libraries, and distracts from copyright reform.

Finnish libraries still have books (and other media) and a very efficient system of moving them around the country to anywhere people want to borrow them.

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There is a very big difference between liking steak and categorizing large swaths of humanity as inferior. If you say "oh, of course Hitler grouped homeless people as inferior, antisocial beings and rounded them up and killed them, this is a reasonable thing to do and I bet he also liked steak!!", this strikes me as pretty unusual.

Yesterday you told me that I had things I needed to work on because I said these things are bad. But I'm guessing you have some hostility in yourself that you haven't addressed. Is there something in others you have trouble accepting? Something about yourself you do not accept, so you have to pin it on something external that makes you uncomfortable?

In my own life, I did go through a phase where I started to appreciate I was too harsh on things I didn't understand or had written off as not worth anything in my younger years. That was also the time I got rid of any fear I once had of the homeless. Today I volunteer in food pantries, as an example, and I remember in my mid 20s thinking food pantry participants might be "riffraff" who are somehow out to get me (they were not). My ability to see parallels to Nazism in your words are a result of those experiences.

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Ok, so they don’t call it a ’buy’ program. It’s a lending program, for free. With a deposit for full value so it becomes a purchase if you don’t return it in time. Same structure but the phrasing matters. Cool idea.

From the website it seems like they're expecting that some people will do this with the intention of renting, but then decide to keep or not get around to the return process.

The tools are almost always something they sell normally, and it keeps their accounting clean.

You'd be a silly goose to rent it and then never return it, however, as the rental tools have been used to heck and back.

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It's up to you to do your own assessment but I don't see any reason to be fearful. These are regulars at that library who never caused enough disruption to be banned, and aren't dangerous enough to be in jail. They also have more to lose by getting banned than housed patrons.

There absolutely are people which are fine and there are one's that don't. No need to create these specific scenarios. That's the whole point of that post.

We're not talking about people being fine or not, we're talking about assessing the risk associated with homeless people patronizing libraries (which is effectively zero).

You are more likely to be attacked by a shark than a homeless person at a library and that should be obvious to anybody.

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That theoretical wait time doesn’t usually end up being so long. Between borrowers returning things early, people on the wait list giving up and most importantly, the library deciding that the current inventory is insufficient, the wait times usually are much less than that (I’ve observed this with books and other materials at my local library and the wait on in-demand times is never as long as the queue would imply)…

Books yes, DVDs yes. But we can check out a Netflix Roku, and the wait time really is what it says on the tin + a bit more; which works out to about once a year, which is about what we need ...

Hmm, my library had a T-Mobile wireless hotspot available and the wait time on the hold was less than what was expected. It ended up being rather fortuitous as the first half of 2020 corresponded to the beginnings of the dissolution of my marriage and I spent that time living in a mostly unfurnished house with no internet and I got the hotspot just before everything shut down in March and it enabled me to have internet for a couple months while the library was closed.

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There absolutely are people which are fine and there are one's that don't. No need to create these specific scenarios. That's the whole point of that post.

We're not talking about people being fine or not, we're talking about assessing the risk associated with homeless people patronizing libraries (which is effectively zero). You are more likely to be attacked by a shark than a homeless person at a library and that should be obvious to anybody.

Nobody talked about attacks, we just said we'd avoid it. You at first escalated it to "hate" and now to "attacked".

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I think musical instruments, especially digital ones like synthesizers or effects but also guitars and other acoustic instruments, have become a lot more affordable the last decade without severely impacting quality. You don't really need the expensive stuff anymore when you can record a quality recording with a second hand iPad and a below $100 microphone. Rental of expensive stuff will always be expensive too due t…

There's still a lot of crap cheap guitars out there, and some truly dreadful cheap amps

There will always be crap sold to people who want a cheap gift or decorative item. But once you shop just a bit above the bottom price there are a surprising amount of decent instruments to be found.

Re: Renting a sewing machine from the library

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If you went into programming because you like making things, odds are high you'll like sewing too. Speaking from experience.

What kind of stuff do you make sewing? About the only think I've ever wanted to sew was a new pocket on a jacket

Most of the things I've made are probably bags and covers or other containers for things. You can make the designs very simple with some thought and bespoke sizes are often useful and impossible to buy.

Upholstery would be really interesting, but it seems that materials I would like (tough, not plastic) are essentially impossible to find here. And I'm often tempted to see if I could make some simple plain clothing because it seems that the shop selections just keep getting worse every year. Either that or actually find myself a tailor.

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