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Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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> When the two civilian dressed masked men entered the apparentment I think this is very irresponsible. What would happen if the owner was armed and harmed the police thinking that they were criminals?

This is Denmark, nobody except gang members is armed

Well, and the police.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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post #21

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That same prime minister supports the warrant-less use of medical records in police work and the ban of encryption through chat control. She wants to prevent the Danish population from having privacy, but demands it herself. Sorry, but that's not the Western way.

Just because you disagree with someone does not make it ok to dox them.

That's a bit simplified, isn't it? He's pointing out precisely that "doxing" the entire population of Denmark shouldn't be acceptable to her, and that she's literally not accepting herself being "doxxed." If it was about, I dunno, pizza toppings or school budgeting, then obviously the actions would have been different.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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post #32

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Sure. If you accept that we give up on equality before the law, one might be prosecutable and the other not. Some of us prefer not to give up on that though.

You dont have to give up equality under the law, you just have to accept that there is a lot more that goes into a prosecution than the act. Were witnesses cooperative and credible, what was the intent, what was context. I dont know the specifics of this case. Maybe there was a miscarriage of justice. But just the fact the acts are the same doesn't show that. There is a lot more factors to consider.

> what was the intent, what was context.

The intent and context are obviously better for the one who's clearly sending the "threat" as a political statement against selective enforcement.

> I dont know the specifics of this case. Maybe there was a miscarriage of justice. But just the fact the acts are the same doesn't show that. There is a lot more factors to consider

... and you're willing to give the benefit of doubt to those with power here. You are aware you're making that implicit statement, right?

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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I'm Danish and lars kragh andersen is a bit of a grey zone. He obviously goes over the line, he tried to put GPS trackers on the cars of ministers. He "stalks" their families, and dox their children online. He gave an interview on how he'd ignore people carrying a kilo gram of weed when he was a cop because he doesn't agree with the "war on drugs". On the flip-side, he's sort of right. I assume that putting a GPS tra…

I think the sim cards are more important: he wrote that Nest switched to local recording mode and the police took the evidence.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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post #26

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Are these exclusive opportunities? I'm not familiar with danish law.

Not exclusive, but in general its a bad idea to post on social media if you plan to take it up in court, as its very easy to accidentally say something that shoots yourself in the foot.

I suppose. I don't think that matters much in places with functioning legal systems.

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> Who cares about weed? Danes.

People who dont pretend it has zero negative consequences as well. I understand the medicinal uses, most people arent even doing that, but we are overlooking so many things. I think someone should fund serious studies that look at all the benefits and negatives, sadly we dont live in a perfect world.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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post #13

> When the two civilian dressed masked men entered the apparentment I think this is very irresponsible. What would happen if the owner was armed and harmed the police thinking that they were criminals?

This is a very... US comment to make.

There have been cases in the US where homeowners shot cops dead who were in the process of unexpectedly raiding their home, because the homeowner had no idea they were cops and not home invasion robbers; and in some cases have been acquitted of murder charges by juries for this.

I'd personally like to see the laws protecting this strengthened, to make sure that cops aren't charging unannounced into peoples' homes and then charging the homeowner with murder when they react with reasonable gun violence in self-defense.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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post #18

Lars is good at exposing the hypocrisy of the Danish government. In a former case he, sent the exact same threatening text to a prosecutor as that prosecutor had received a police report from a third party about, and that the prosecutor refused to pursue. Lars got jail time for that. Rules for thee but not for me.

Or alternatively, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Even if the text message was exactly the same, there are plenty of valid reasons why one might be prosecutable and the other might not be.

Indeed, that’s why selective prosecution is an effective weapon. The consequences are asymmetric and demonstrating selectivity is impossible without exposing oneself to the downside. It’s definitely a stable incumbent regime tactic.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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post #27

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I was thinking of the police officers. Why risk your life for such a petty crime?

This is Denmark not America, there is literally no risk to their life.

Just because Denmark doesn't have the same gun laws, culture around using guns for self-defense, or prevalence of guns as the US does, it doesn't mean that Danish police face no risk when they raid someone's home. Anytime the cops raid someone's home, regardless of whether or not is it a legitimate raid of a legitimate criminal, it's a violent act and there's risk that the cops will be hurt or killed.
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