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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by ElProlactin »

hoytschermerhrn wrote: post #558
Aurornis wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite what’s being implied everywhere, this ID check page has been there since April. Wayback Machine if you don’t believe me: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... > As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old. LLMs are not the first te…

I’m a US citizen and absolutely will not be uploading additional information just to use a company’s models. This effectively kills my usage of anthropic for anything beyond their 4.8 models.

> I’m a US citizen and absolutely will not be uploading additional information just to use a company’s models.

I can't speak to your specific use of Anthropic's models, but I find it interesting that people will identify themselves (to set up and pay for an account) and provide all sorts of personal (and often sensitive if not confidential) information to these models on a daily basis, but balk at a 5-minute identity verification.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by ElProlactin »

1over137 wrote: post #462
ignoramous wrote: post #451

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> Note the big cut in token prices from China. After the recent 75%+ price cuts by DeepSeek & Xiaomi MiMo (and now, MiniMax), I pretty much packed my Claude bag up and moved over. I see no discernable difference (other than chattiness of its thinking modes) in capabilities for the kind of coding & debugging work I do.

and China is not threatening to invade the EU or Canada. They are the lesser of two evils at this point.

> and China is not threatening to invade the EU or Canada. They are the lesser of two evils at this point.

They don't need to. They can undermine the West economically and politically.

The US has been a much more violent imperial power but America's wars don't even scratch the surface of what it has done overseas through economic might and covert action.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by pfisch »

nutjob2 wrote: post #455
Aurornis wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite what’s being implied everywhere, this ID check page has been there since April. Wayback Machine if you don’t believe me: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... > As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old. LLMs are not the first te…

You're way off the mark, and probably viewing this as an American. If it happens once that means it can happen which means it can happen at any time. When you feel you're a 2nd class person, or 'other', you're not eager to empower your oppressor, quite the opposite.

You're acting like you can't just switch which llm you are using in around an hour.

I mean...use opus/fable when you can, if down the road your access gets cut then just switch to kimi or whatever.

Yeah, this sucks, but you're being really dramatic and acting like you can't switch llms with basically no lock in. Getting something like your email cut off would be a real thing to be concerned about, but this isn't that.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by eturkes1 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #496
3stacks wrote: post #491

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What is stopping you from switching to GLM 5.2 now? Have you tried it out yet? I'm playing with Deepseek a lot more via OpenRouter recently and the only major downside I can see is the usage billing over the monthly plan

Existing setup. I'm already used to Claude Code I guess. I actually spent time and tokens customizing and fixing it. Have a patcher utility that modifies the binary in order to disable telemetry and remove performance reducing language in the system prompts. Every update I spend some Claude tokens dissecting the newest executable and integrating it with my patcher. The monthly subscription is also a major hurdle for…

Are you me? Anyway I wonder if you've played with the following, they've been what I've been using to patch CC:

https://github.com/skrabe/tweakcc-fixed https://github.com/skrabe/lobotomized-claude-code

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by ozozozd »

Aurornis wrote: post #437
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

Despite what’s being implied everywhere, this ID check page has been there since April. Wayback Machine if you don’t believe me: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... > As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old. LLMs are not the first te…

This is a strange plea for optimism.

Sincerely or not, judgement is yours, Dario has been begging for regulation. He has been talking about how Claude models are distilled by foreign adversaries. And now the regulation is here.

What makes you think this situation that the CEO of Anthropic is asking for it temporary? Do you not believe Dario was sincere?

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

justaj wrote: post #442
Aurornis wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite what’s being implied everywhere, this ID check page has been there since April. Wayback Machine if you don’t believe me: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... > As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old. LLMs are not the first te…

What makes you believe this is about export controls rather than harvesting data?

What makes you believe he belives that?

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by -Fu »

ElProlactin wrote: post #571
hoytschermerhrn wrote: post #558

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m a US citizen and absolutely will not be uploading additional information just to use a company’s models. This effectively kills my usage of anthropic for anything beyond their 4.8 models.

> I’m a US citizen and absolutely will not be uploading additional information just to use a company’s models. I can't speak to your specific use of Anthropic's models, but I find it interesting that people will identify themselves (to set up and pay for an account) and provide all sorts of personal (and often sensitive if not confidential) information to these models on a daily basis, but balk at a 5-minute identity…

It’s not the five minutes that I balk at, it’s entrusting a third party with all they need to steal my identity. But of course, they’ll never get hacked…

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by N_Lens »

deanishe wrote: post #560
ignoramous wrote: post #445

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> This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old... I think, this is all a culmination of rapidly eroding trust and soft power between US & its allies for the past 3y.

What allies? You threatened to invade Canada and Greenland. You surely don't think you're coming back from that?

They will obviously come back from that no questions about it. It’s like an abusive relationship that CA/EU can’t fully eject from, there will always be hope of conciliation because the benefits both ways are so massive and the relationships are so entrenched, it will take much more than DJT and Republicans/dark enlightenment technocrats to completely fracture these alliances.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by N_Lens »

ethbr1 wrote: post #498
1over137 wrote: post #462

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and China is not threatening to invade the EU or Canada. They are the lesser of two evils at this point.

Taiwan? South China Sea?

Comparatively tiny issues compared to US actions in the past several decades.
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