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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by ignoramous »

Animats wrote: post #243
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

> The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. Note the big cut in token prices from China. [1] https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202606/1363827.shtml

> Note the big cut in token prices from China.

After the recent 75%+ price cuts by DeepSeek & Xiaomi MiMo (and now, MiniMax), I pretty much packed my Claude bag up and moved over. I see no discernable difference (other than chattiness of its thinking modes) in capabilities for the kind of coding & debugging work I do.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by girvo »

vanviegen wrote: post #427
Den_VR wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought true token use was being hidden by anthropic and openai both

No, they do specify token counts, as they let you pay for them. They just don't tell you what these thinking tokens actually are.

Though because they don't show you, they could be lying about it. Very unlikely, I think, would be too dangerous IMO. But technically possible

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by girvo »

metalspot wrote: post #407
aucisson_masque wrote: post #389

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I bet that if you don't use companies that enforce these verifications, and they start to lose money, things will shift very fast.

No. Google and Apple are already rolling out the infrastructure. FCC is requiring IDs for phones. It will be opt-in for a while but the acceleration of AI risks will inevitably lead to an infrastructure level lock down of the entire internet. 99% of the population will accept it without hesitation because it is no different than what they do already. Everything you do online is already logged and tracked. The only th…

> The only thing moving to digital real id does is prevent criminal activity.

What utter nonsense.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by RobertDeNiro »

Aurornis wrote: post #437
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

Despite what’s being implied everywhere, this ID check page has been there since April. Wayback Machine if you don’t believe me: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... > As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old. LLMs are not the first te…

Export controls have typically been for physical goods. Don’t remember the last time it was used for an API

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by nutjob2 »

Aurornis wrote: post #437
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

Despite what’s being implied everywhere, this ID check page has been there since April. Wayback Machine if you don’t believe me: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... > As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old. LLMs are not the first te…

You're way off the mark, and probably viewing this as an American.

If it happens once that means it can happen which means it can happen at any time.

When you feel you're a 2nd class person, or 'other', you're not eager to empower your oppressor, quite the opposite.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by matheusmoreira »

data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

> As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to.

> Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never be able to access, while other models are able to catch up.

Excellent point... That made me rethink my payments to Anthropic. As one of the foreign peasants who was banned from accessing Fable by the land of the free, it's become really hard to justify giving Anthropic any more money. I'm very tempted to switch to GLM 5.2.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by tmp10423288442 »

miki123211 wrote: post #307
fragmede wrote: post #248

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Fun fact, if you're celebrity you get a special customer support phone number at most major corporations EG Apple because "Hi I'm Taylor Swift" gets tried a lot.

How do they get the customer support number to that celebrity? E.G> when Taylor Swift wants to call Apple right now, how would she know what number to call? Incidentally, https://people.com/pope-leo-was-hung-up-on-by-bank-customer-...

I presume you get connected somehow when opening up a high-value account at a participating bank. If that account has some sort of concierge service, I presume that’s how special numbers for other companies might be distributed.

Pope Leo is not that rich, and had lived outside the US for many years (he came up in the church hierarchy of Latin America), so it’s not that surprising that he ran into this situation.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by matheusmoreira »

nutjob2 wrote: post #455
Aurornis wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite what’s being implied everywhere, this ID check page has been there since April. Wayback Machine if you don’t believe me: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... > As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old. LLMs are not the first te…

You're way off the mark, and probably viewing this as an American. If it happens once that means it can happen which means it can happen at any time. When you feel you're a 2nd class person, or 'other', you're not eager to empower your oppressor, quite the opposite.

> When you feel you're a 2nd class person, or 'other', you're not eager to empower your oppressor, quite the opposite.

Completely agree.

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