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The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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These are gender-affirming vehicles for a large number of men. Taking them away is a direct attack on their masculinity. When we say, "Men are under attack," it refers to things like this.

Regardless of any safety claims, for that reason alone, I don't see it as a politically viable issue.

Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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These are gender-affirming vehicles for a large number of men. Taking them away is a direct attack on their masculinity. When we say, "Men are under attack," it refers to things like this. Regardless of any safety claims, for that reason alone, I don't see it as a politically viable issue.

> These are gender-affirming vehicles for a large number of men.

I think people simply do find SUVs (which I don't like) convenient. Many women, including a huge number of moms, do happen to just love SUVs. Both in the US and in the EU.

In the EU SUVs are now approaching 60% of all cars sold (59.25% or so, latest numbers). You don't get such a market share by being mostly cars sold to men needing to "gender-affirm".

Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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Does the added risk translate proportionally to increased insurance costs? Or is there an imbalance? When I was a teen getting insurance for the first time, certain vehicle colors were significantly more expensive to insure, and that fact factored into my car buying decisions.

Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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These are gender-affirming vehicles for a large number of men. Taking them away is a direct attack on their masculinity. When we say, "Men are under attack," it refers to things like this. Regardless of any safety claims, for that reason alone, I don't see it as a politically viable issue.

> These are gender-affirming vehicles for a large number of men. I think people simply do find SUVs (which I don't like) convenient. Many women, including a huge number of moms, do happen to just love SUVs. Both in the US and in the EU. In the EU SUVs are now approaching 60% of all cars sold (59.25% or so, latest numbers). You don't get such a market share by being mostly cars sold to men needing to "gender-affirm".

I drive an SUV. It's convenient!

A Ford F150 is fucking ridiculous in comparison, and larger than any truck I remember seeing growing up, and there's people with F350s for personal use.

One of them ran over and killed a kid outside a nearby children's museum. Those things are not safe.

Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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These are gender-affirming vehicles for a large number of men. Taking them away is a direct attack on their masculinity. When we say, "Men are under attack," it refers to things like this. Regardless of any safety claims, for that reason alone, I don't see it as a politically viable issue.

You're right, I don't know why you're getting down voted. You e got my admiration for being brave enough to write this on HN

Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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These are gender-affirming vehicles for a large number of men. Taking them away is a direct attack on their masculinity. When we say, "Men are under attack," it refers to things like this. Regardless of any safety claims, for that reason alone, I don't see it as a politically viable issue.

You might be the one saying this right now, but how old is this comment?

I don't think I've ever heard any man ever say that in real life, but even online it's probably been almost a decade since this was memed into the ground.

Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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I have 360 degree cameras (at toddler height), auto braking, every conceivable safety mechanism. I really think that once these are implemented, any hatred of large vehicles is just jealousy.

None of that fixes an inattentive driver flying down the road playing with tiktok on their phone
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