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Re: Show HN: CleverCrow: give tokens to your favorite projects

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Post by skeledrew »

tfrancisl wrote: post #28
skeledrew wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you ensure that funds ear-marked for a donor-specified issue goes toward that issue and not something else?

You don't sponsor people or projects to complete specific issues or build specific features in the first place. Sponsorship is a reward and token of appreciation for doing good work.

Some don't mind doing the overall reward and appreciation thing. And some just have that particular issue that they want handled so the project works - better - for them. Both cases are valid.

Re: Show HN: CleverCrow: give tokens to your favorite projects

#32

Post by skeledrew »

lou1306 wrote: post #29
skeledrew wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you ensure that funds ear-marked for a donor-specified issue goes toward that issue and not something else?

You actually hire a developer to work on that issue and not something else.

Pretty much what this ensures. Just that the "developer" is a LLM agent.

Re: Show HN: CleverCrow: give tokens to your favorite projects

#33

Post by anamexis »

skeledrew wrote: post #31
tfrancisl wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't sponsor people or projects to complete specific issues or build specific features in the first place. Sponsorship is a reward and token of appreciation for doing good work.

Some don't mind doing the overall reward and appreciation thing. And some just have that particular issue that they want handled so the project works - better - for them. Both cases are valid.

Yes, and donation/sponsorship is not the tool for the latter.

Re: Show HN: CleverCrow: give tokens to your favorite projects

#34

Post by zhubert »

dofm wrote: post #26

Can’t help thinking that if HN had a Black Mirror version (if this isn’t it), this would be one of the ideas in it. If you like a project enough to donate to them, give them the money directly and let them decide how to spend it. This is just convoluted, weird and vaguely dystopian.

Well then, I'm hoping it's more of a San Junipero/Hang the DJ episode where good stuff happens by the end.

I think there's a trust continuum that culminates at giving money no strings attached, but it starts somewhere else. If my goal (as creator of CleverCrow) is to get more people to support maintainers, then I have to open the funnel wide and connect with where people start (transactionally, I'm assuming).

Re: Show HN: CleverCrow: give tokens to your favorite projects

#35

Post by lovich »

skeledrew wrote: post #27
tfrancisl wrote: post #7

Better yet: give them cold hard cash instead of what is arguably monopoly money for many OSS devs. Ironically this is something GitHub made "easy" with sponsorships several years ago.

How do you ensure that funds ear-marked for a donor-specified issue goes toward that issue and not something else?

You hit up the maintainer and negotiate a deal for that?

If all you’ve got is relative pocket change they probably aren’t going to agree but if you put real money behind it and it doesn’t go against their vision of the project then most people would be willing to accept actual contracting work to expand their project.

Re: Show HN: CleverCrow: give tokens to your favorite projects

#36

Post by gxnxcxcx »

KomoD wrote: post #19

I like the "maintainer stays in control" part, but isn't that also a problem in a way? The AI provider gets paid, the platform gets paid (20% is a lot in my opinion!), and the maintainer gets more unpaid work: another PR to plan, review, revise, merge, and then maintain... that's a lot of work. If people are willing to fund an issue, why should that money mainly cover LLM tokens rather than maintainer effort? Or at l…

"We can pay you in exposure... And b̶e̶e̶r̶s̶ tokens!"

Re: Show HN: CleverCrow: give tokens to your favorite projects

#37

Post by skeledrew »

lovich wrote: post #35
skeledrew wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you ensure that funds ear-marked for a donor-specified issue goes toward that issue and not something else?

You hit up the maintainer and negotiate a deal for that? If all you’ve got is relative pocket change they probably aren’t going to agree but if you put real money behind it and it doesn’t go against their vision of the project then most people would be willing to accept actual contracting work to expand their project.

Sounds like a lot of trouble to go through, vs just sending some funds to a wallet with the assurance it'll go where you want it to or return to you.

Re: Show HN: CleverCrow: give tokens to your favorite projects

#38

Post by skeledrew »

anamexis wrote: post #33
skeledrew wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some don't mind doing the overall reward and appreciation thing. And some just have that particular issue that they want handled so the project works - better - for them. Both cases are valid.

Yes, and donation/sponsorship is not the tool for the latter.

What matters is if it works out (gains traction) or not.

Re: Show HN: CleverCrow: give tokens to your favorite projects

#40

Post by anamexis »

skeledrew wrote: post #38
anamexis wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and donation/sponsorship is not the tool for the latter.

What matters is if it works out (gains traction) or not.

I'm not sure how that's related to your initial question of "How do you ensure that funds ear-marked for a donor-specified issue goes toward that issue and not something else?"

If you want that, negotiate a contract.

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