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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by Aurornis »

Rooster61 wrote: post #22

I really don't like that headlines have been surfacing about the US government putting pressure on Anthropic, and now a short time later they are requiring ID's (albeit for certain use cases, but that's a slippery slope). I may very well stop using Claude due to this. Also, who is providing the verification service? We don't want another Discord situation. EDIT: Just saw it's Persona. Definitely dropping Claude now.

> and now a short time later they are requiring ID's (albeit for certain use cases, but that's a slippery slope).

They’ve had this process in place for a long time.

This page is not new or recent. Someone just found it and submitted it again. It’s been discussed on HN months ago if you want to go look.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by furyofantares »

data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

> As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question.

Not only is it up for debate, I find it extremely unlikely to be true.

I don't really disagree with the rest of your post but I very strongly doubt that Opus 4.8 will be the best American LLM you'll have access to this year.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by 0x3f »

cheesecakegood wrote: post #305
zsoltkacsandi wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm paying for models I'll never be able to access That is very well put.

If they have a year sub, then yes I agree (even if it’s implicitly always part of the risk of buying so far in advance) but if they are month to month this position is absolutely nonsensical.

You seem to be saying that it's not a problem because you can just cancel your subscription if you don't like it. The fact remains that it's true. It's bad for goodwill in the same way Apple flipping $ -> £/€ is.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by starik36 »

jerry4next wrote: post #382
sinker wrote: post #312

Cancelled. Anthropic can get bent if it wants to market itself as the ethical AI choice and at the same time lies in bed with those openly pushing for a surveillance state.

I canceled when they first labeled as a supply chain risk. Switched to codex and neverlooked back. This company will be more evil then Google at the end.

OpenAI had the the same restrictions. Also required you to verify via Persona. I complained and at some point the restrictions were removed. Not sure if because of my complaining or if someone in our org actually verified.

https://imgur.com/ugXQ6Eb

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by laacz »

drnick1 wrote: post #420
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

> The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. > The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market The issue is that there is no "international LLM market." America is leading the AI race, and while Chinese open weight models are great, they aren't quite bleeding edge. I routinely use Qwen and GPT-OSS (locally) for things I don't want to share with Anthropic, but they are c…

Kings come and go. These types of decisions can actually kill a king. Not instantly, of course. But still.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by vanviegen »

Den_VR wrote: post #390
pimeys wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are but from our evals for example GLM 5.2 (unquantized) performs as well as Opus but uses more tokens and takes more time. I really wish this would change soon but they are not there yet.

I thought true token use was being hidden by anthropic and openai both

No, they do specify token counts, as they let you pay for them. They just don't tell you what these thinking tokens actually are.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by 3y350n1y »

metalspot wrote: post #407
aucisson_masque wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet that if you don't use companies that enforce these verifications, and they start to lose money, things will shift very fast.

No. Google and Apple are already rolling out the infrastructure. FCC is requiring IDs for phones. It will be opt-in for a while but the acceleration of AI risks will inevitably lead to an infrastructure level lock down of the entire internet. 99% of the population will accept it without hesitation because it is no different than what they do already. Everything you do online is already logged and tracked. The only th…

"The only thing moving to digital real id does is prevent criminal activity." what an absolute crock.
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