How is it going to work for corporate customers. What if one us employee writes claude output into a ticket, can that be read by a non us citizen employee? What about paraphrased?
Identity verification on Claude
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#392Alright, I'm off Claude.
That's how you kill people's will to use your product, there are so many competitors.
How could they do that ?
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#393OpenAI also has this kind of check. What is especially bad is that if you fail the verification process, they won’t let you retry – you are permanently locked out from the top models. They aren’t clear about this upfront during the process, so make sure the lighting is good when you scan your ID! https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10910291-api-organizatio...
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#394Earlier quoted context omitted.
They clearly specify that they accept IDs from most countries. This likely means that they've reached a deal (or hope that they'll reach one) with the US government that lets them share Fable with foreigners, but only as long as they know exactly who it is being shared with. This is off-putting to the HN demographic, but won't change anything in practice. 99+% of people will just do the ID verification and move on.
Persona already had scandals earlier this year: - https://cybernews.com/privacy/persona-leak-exposes-global-su... - https://hothardware.com/news/discord-drops-persona-after-use... It’s off putting outside of HN
The Peter Thiel connection is especially toxic for a lot of people outside the US. Whether it's substantive or just optics doesn't make a huge difference.
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#395OpenAI also has this kind of check. What is especially bad is that if you fail the verification process, they won’t let you retry – you are permanently locked out from the top models. They aren’t clear about this upfront during the process, so make sure the lighting is good when you scan your ID! https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10910291-api-organizatio...
From that page:
> At this time, retries are not supported. You can continue using OpenAI’s platform with your existing access.
That's ridiculous, especially as their list of reasons that verifications can fail include "There was a technical issue during submission".
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#396I'm glad I don't use Claude.
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#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
They clearly specify that they accept IDs from most countries. This likely means that they've reached a deal (or hope that they'll reach one) with the US government that lets them share Fable with foreigners, but only as long as they know exactly who it is being shared with. This is off-putting to the HN demographic, but won't change anything in practice. 99+% of people will just do the ID verification and move on.
> 99+% of people will just do the ID verification and move on Why? Is Claude really so much better that the additional hassle and privacy invasion is worth it? What's stopping people from switching to one of the dozen or so other AI tools? Heck, considering the volatility of the LLM industry, shouldn't everyone already be using OpenRouter & friends to avoid getting screwed over by the model-of-the-week - making a swi…
> What's stopping people from switching to one of the dozen or so other AI tools?
I’m lazy.
I will simply upload my drivers license to Claude, and continue paying $200/month.
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#398Cancelled. Anthropic can get bent if it wants to market itself as the ethical AI choice and at the same time lies in bed with those openly pushing for a surveillance state.
I canceled when they first labeled as a supply chain risk. Switched to codex and neverlooked back. This company will be more evil then Google at the end.
Do you believe OpenAI won’t face the same troubles?
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#399Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. Your overall argument makes some sense, but I would bet any money this simply is not true. Even if the US maintains some of the restrictions on export (which is in no way a given with how fickle this administration is, let alone the next administration), as LLMs advance, Fable will eventually be considered a lower tier model, and is l…
That makes it better, paying money to always having access to the second rate models from US AI providers. The problem remains.
> paying money to always having access to the second rate models from US AI providers. The problem remains.
Your alternative:
Pay a Chinese or EU company for a third rate model.
The choice is yours.
Re: Identity verification on Claude
#400So apparently the UK and Europe are sleepwalking into an identity collection en masse by the state and yet…