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Re: Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites

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sneak wrote: post #44
purple-leafy wrote: post #37

Moderation moderation moderation . It’s a big problem I have similar moderation concerns in my browser game/engine but I only ban offensive slurs not swears, but I give no visual affordance that the word is not allowed The only surface where players see the input content is in a share card, and if they finish a game and get to the share card they will find the offensive word has been REDACTED lol So it’s a long feedb…

…or you could just let people talk? People who engage with social features generally do so because they want to talk to other people. That carries some inherent risks.

I don't think horrible people (eg racist, xenophobic, bigots) have the right to share space with good, kind people.

They have the privilege they forfeit the moment they try to hurt others. If they don't behave like cunts I don't care, but if they do, I'll use any tool I have at my disposal to bar them from the space they don't respect. They can talk to their kind in the nasty spaces anyway, so it's not like they're in the solitary confinement.

Re: Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites

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Post by tamimio »

cauenapier wrote: post #97
monkeymeister wrote: post #6

Neat idea! It's simple but very effective - and I really enjoy the detail of the benches and the tree. Very nice. I wouldn't add it to any of my sites due to the unmoderated nature of it - seeing some fairly unsavory things in your demo - but that's just a little tweak, I'm sure!

Actually, there is moderation. The problem is that the page came to HN before I added the moderation keywords or implemented more things :P But overall, it's possible. On the details like benches and trees, you can also customize it. YOu can add as many props as you want, wherever you want, and style them accordingly. :)

Love the idea, I added to my site!

I know it might be too much to ask for, but it would be great to have the ability to add your own props, like an icon and how to animate it. I would love to add maybe cats or drones icons that also move around!

Re: Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites

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Post by paytonjjones »

dang wrote: post #140
paytonjjones wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This suggestion is scarier than the thought someone might say a slur. You're talking about using a machine to detect social undesirables then quarantining them in the matrix.

Edit: Welcome to Hacker News btw! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48618488 looks like a great project and I put it in the second-chance pool (explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998309 ). --- Can you please edit out swipes like "Do you hear yourself?". This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . If you wouldn't mind reviewing the other guidelines too, we'd a…

I would be happy to edit but I don't think I yet have the ability. Cheers.

Re: Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites

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Post by nkrisc »

fragmede wrote: post #43
Mtinie wrote: post #40

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After having been a moderator for a number of communities over the years—BBCs in the 90s, niche forums during the 00s & 10s, Reddit boards in the 20s—I’ve come to believe that running shadow services where disruptive individuals can comingle may be the best way to handle this. The advent of LLMs really opens the door to shunting off these “community members “ who’d rather contribute in misanthropic ways for the lulz…

But why not kick them out? Why bother with a shadow site for them?

If they believe they’re still trolling people they will keep doing so and won’t make an alternative account and will keep harassing bots instead of real people.

Re: Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites

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Post by nkrisc »

paytonjjones wrote: post #114
Mtinie wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After having been a moderator for a number of communities over the years—BBCs in the 90s, niche forums during the 00s & 10s, Reddit boards in the 20s—I’ve come to believe that running shadow services where disruptive individuals can comingle may be the best way to handle this. The advent of LLMs really opens the door to shunting off these “community members “ who’d rather contribute in misanthropic ways for the lulz…

This suggestion is scarier than the thought someone might say a slur. You're talking about using a machine to detect social undesirables then quarantining them in the matrix.

There’s a difference between someone who is occasionally abrasive and mentally ill people want to destroy things other people enjoy.

Re: Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites

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Post by fragmede »

purple-leafy wrote: post #57
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #4

> NOTE: This project has been mostly vibe-coded I deeply appreciate the honesty here. I’ll pass based on the vibecodedness of it but perhaps it won’t be a dealbreaker for others.

Yeah. I also don’t like the fact the dev posts the link and doesn’t interact with anyone here at all, so the link posting is effectively spray and pray abandonware too. Easy come easy go like they say

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=cauenapier shows a bunch of comments from the dev.

Re: Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites

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Post by [deleted] »

0x3f wrote: post #107
purple-leafy wrote: post #53

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No? Especially not in my case where it’s a share artefact that is intended to be shared with others on various platforms. Having my game aesthetic + slur on a sharing artefact is a great way for people to think my game encourages that crap and to “cancel” the game. Not that I agree with, or care about, cancel culture - but I don’t want people in general associating my game with slurs. I’m all for swearing and saying…

I get the desire to moderate your game, but how are words 'harmful' exactly? Especially random, throwaway internet spew. Harmful to your game's reputation, maybe. But to the people?

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Re: Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites

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Post by cindyllm »

[deleted] wrote: post #148
0x3f wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the desire to moderate your game, but how are words 'harmful' exactly? Especially random, throwaway internet spew. Harmful to your game's reputation, maybe. But to the people?

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Re: Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites

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Post by dang »

paytonjjones wrote: post #144
dang wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: Welcome to Hacker News btw! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48618488 looks like a great project and I put it in the second-chance pool (explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998309 ). --- Can you please edit out swipes like "Do you hear yourself?". This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . If you wouldn't mind reviewing the other guidelines too, we'd a…

I would be happy to edit but I don't think I yet have the ability. Cheers.

Normally I'd say not to bother, but since your GP post got some interesting replies, I think it's a good idea so I've re-opened it for editing.

If you do that, let me know and I'll unflag the post and collapse the moderation bits ;)

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