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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by pizzly »

cortesoft wrote: post #303
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

> As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. Your overall argument makes some sense, but I would bet any money this simply is not true. Even if the US maintains some of the restrictions on export (which is in no way a given with how fickle this administration is, let alone the next administration), as LLMs advance, Fable will eventually be considered a lower tier model, and is l…

That makes it better, paying money to always having access to the second rate models from US AI providers. The problem remains.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by SilverElfin »

> Being responsible with powerful technology starts with knowing who is using it.

What a disgusting gaslighting corporate speak. Anthropic really has blown all trust in these last two weeks.

AI is all about information and therefore about speech. If you need to identify yourself to access information or ask questions, it undermines freedom. Anthropic is on the wrong side of history.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by inigyou »

thwarted wrote: post #301
kshacker wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No me, well me too but not that bad, but my wife. Sometimes in the 200x era on green card, she will always get called for secondary inspection. Oh you entered this airport on this date. How are you re-entering without going out. "Well we did not. Not traveled for a year." But you did. All bags searched, more q&a and then they let her go. A couple of times they mentioned that the other person with the same name had th…

It's rich that the cohort that sees identity verification and real names policies as necessary and meaningful also doesn't seem to understand the first thing about identity and names.

It just has to chill your speech. It doesn't have to not mess up your life, as long as it chills your speech.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by inigyou »

JimDabell wrote: post #120
inigyou wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I told them who I was and then failed to verify that, they don't know who I am because they think I'm lying about who I am. Otherwise what stops me DoSing Sam Altman's account by saying I'm him and then failing to verify?

> If I told them who I was and then failed to verify that, they don't know who I am because they think I'm lying about who I am. They know who you claim to be. It’s not like they just delete all information about you when you fail verification. They are perfectly capable of seeing that two separate accounts are both claiming to be the same person. > Otherwise what stops me DoSing Sam Altman's account by saying I'm hi…

Of course not, that's why I fail verification as them. If I had their passport I'd pass verification as them.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by jackjeff »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #330
alex_duf wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's about covering their arse before reopening Fable 5 They don't care if anyone is using a fake ID, they care that they can send the hot potato back to the American government. That gives them a legitimate "not my fault if people can make fake ids. In fact it's your fault"

Persona isn’t just an id upload. It’s also face scan by video.

So a fake ID but using your face?

How would they know? Does the US government expose their database to private businesses? I always wondered how these things work.

I normally run away from these ID checks. It’s just a matter of time until lone of these databases with everyone passports and videos get hacked. And vibe coding only makes it more likely.

I don’t care how good Claude is, it’s not good enough for that kind of risk.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by btown »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #322

Most importantly, they state "We [Antrhopic] are not using your identity data to train our models" but "Persona [...] can use your data [...] to improve their ability to prevent fraud." -- in other words, Persona can (and will) use your data to train their models.

Notably, though, Persona does not have access to your Claude interactions, other than your signup/verification date. They’ll train on your uploaded docs and photos, to be sure, but it won’t be correlated to your chats and projects, unless Anthropic is doing things that would make their counsel have heart attacks.
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