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Post by slicktux »

beaker52 wrote: post #41

I didn’t discover that ticks were a problem until I was in my mid 20s, and had been rolling around in deer-filled brush for years. Either I got very lucky, or have a chronic tick-borne disease. I’ve been battling unexplained anxiety, fatigue, poor sleep and cognitive decline throughout my 30s. I’ve had every blood test under the sun, numerous sleep studies and tried every vitamin. I’ve had no answers and no change. S…

Interesting enough; Lyme disease come from ticks that fed on infected mice. Like deer-mice or white footed mice. Rodents are the problem.

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Post by nekusar »

any_throw777 wrote: post #27
zzzeek wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and the rabbits and chipmunks and mice and squirrels, as well as that you have to kill basically all deer to the point of about 8 deer per square mile, since one deer can carry 2000-3000 new ticks. which is basically impossible on mainland because new deer just wander over.

I'm thinking reverse gene drive? Keep the animals and destroy the pests. Also let's do that for screw worms.

We DID, for screwworms.

The fucking republicans got rid of it, calling it "watching flies have sex".

Now, republicans and DOGE fucked around. Now, Texas and southern states are going to find out.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/doge-slashed-usda-staffing...

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Post by kortex »

beaker52 wrote: post #41

I didn’t discover that ticks were a problem until I was in my mid 20s, and had been rolling around in deer-filled brush for years. Either I got very lucky, or have a chronic tick-borne disease. I’ve been battling unexplained anxiety, fatigue, poor sleep and cognitive decline throughout my 30s. I’ve had every blood test under the sun, numerous sleep studies and tried every vitamin. I’ve had no answers and no change. S…

Did you mean hyperthermia? This whole thread sent me down a rabbit hole (I have several close folks afflicted by Lyme) and while at first glance hyperthermia might seem woo-ish, there is real research being done, particularly on hyperthermia + antibiotics. The chief drawbacks are cost (I'm seeing $30k and up and not usually covered) and strain on the body. Friedrich Douwes pioneered much of this.

Douwes F. Komplextherapie der chronischen Borreliose (Lyme disease) - Ein neuer Therapieansatz: die Antibiotika augmentierte Thermoeradikation (AAT). OM & Ernährung. 2018;164:F10.

Douwes F. The successful antibiotic augmented thermal eradication of chronic lyme disease. Paper presented at the 32nd ESHO Meeting, Berlin, 16–19 May 2018.

Re: 15-minute at-home Lyme disease tick test

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Post by gentlewater »

beaker52 wrote: post #41

I didn’t discover that ticks were a problem until I was in my mid 20s, and had been rolling around in deer-filled brush for years. Either I got very lucky, or have a chronic tick-borne disease. I’ve been battling unexplained anxiety, fatigue, poor sleep and cognitive decline throughout my 30s. I’ve had every blood test under the sun, numerous sleep studies and tried every vitamin. I’ve had no answers and no change. S…

Recognizable. I try to increase how much of my wage I save, in case I can’t continue working for ever.

My best answer for my own sake is just burnout, exasperated by some underlying depression. I can have good periods when job stress is low and I make good life choices. Incidentally, I had a blood test show borreliosis randomly 10 years ago, but doubt that’s relevant.

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Post by Loughla »

gentlewater wrote: post #145
beaker52 wrote: post #41

I didn’t discover that ticks were a problem until I was in my mid 20s, and had been rolling around in deer-filled brush for years. Either I got very lucky, or have a chronic tick-borne disease. I’ve been battling unexplained anxiety, fatigue, poor sleep and cognitive decline throughout my 30s. I’ve had every blood test under the sun, numerous sleep studies and tried every vitamin. I’ve had no answers and no change. S…

Recognizable. I try to increase how much of my wage I save, in case I can’t continue working for ever. My best answer for my own sake is just burnout, exasperated by some underlying depression. I can have good periods when job stress is low and I make good life choices. Incidentally, I had a blood test show borreliosis randomly 10 years ago, but doubt that’s relevant.

If your job is impacting your health, literally do something else. I know it's seemingly flippant but it's real advice.

I left a very high stress job for one that pays less, but has zero stress. Within 1 week I had to come off the blood pressure medicine. Within 2 months I started weaning off the anxiety meds.

It's like I've been looking at life through frosted glass, and it's suddenly clear. I wish I had done this sooner.

The loss of income isn't the end of the world. You can make it work. I did.

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Post by pipes »

geekfeatures wrote: post #71
beaker52 wrote: post #41

I didn’t discover that ticks were a problem until I was in my mid 20s, and had been rolling around in deer-filled brush for years. Either I got very lucky, or have a chronic tick-borne disease. I’ve been battling unexplained anxiety, fatigue, poor sleep and cognitive decline throughout my 30s. I’ve had every blood test under the sun, numerous sleep studies and tried every vitamin. I’ve had no answers and no change. S…

Signed up to post this. So I have been on this journey with my daughter for the last 7 years, she is now 25, but only got a Lyme diagnosis less than 2 years ago, has been suffering since she was 18. It’s not just ticks, mosquitos and spiders can apparently carry the bacteria (there is not a lot of consensus about the causes of Lyme, there is the bacterial school of thought and a viral theory). This if the fringe of s…

Thanks for posting that. I'm constantly thinking about lymes disease when my two young daughters play in anything approaching long grass. I'll file this away in my mind for if worst ever did happen.

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Post by wurf234 »

kortex wrote: post #144
beaker52 wrote: post #41

I didn’t discover that ticks were a problem until I was in my mid 20s, and had been rolling around in deer-filled brush for years. Either I got very lucky, or have a chronic tick-borne disease. I’ve been battling unexplained anxiety, fatigue, poor sleep and cognitive decline throughout my 30s. I’ve had every blood test under the sun, numerous sleep studies and tried every vitamin. I’ve had no answers and no change. S…

Did you mean hyperthermia? This whole thread sent me down a rabbit hole (I have several close folks afflicted by Lyme) and while at first glance hyperthermia might seem woo-ish, there is real research being done, particularly on hyperthermia + antibiotics. The chief drawbacks are cost (I'm seeing $30k and up and not usually covered) and strain on the body. Friedrich Douwes pioneered much of this. Douwes F. Komplexthe…

Posting with a fresh account for obvious reasons.

After serious issues piling up for a very long time and an equally long journey to get to the root what was bothering me medically I presented to Dr. Douwes a couple years back in his clinic in Bad Aibling.

The experience was a bit frightening, to say the least. Their methodology to get a diagnosis was basically just examining my medical history followed by a dark field microscopy (i.e. visually checking a blood sample for spirochetes). After that I was diagnosed with late stage lyme and offered two options: a very handwritten prescription (pencil on notepad, w/o doctors signature, not rubberstamped, looking very shady) for herbal ingredients (basically artemisia annua leaves and some roots to brew a tea) - without any tips where to get that from and not really exact dosages given. Option 2: ambulant Hyperthermia + painkillers (to supress pain from the hyperthermia) + a combination of antibiotics (parenteral) for 2 or 3 weeks. Extracting a fortune (20k ballpark)

They also offer hyperthermia treatment for cancer and long covid & me/cfs if I am not mistaken.

The visit really had a smell to it and left me with unease. Look up the group's company network in the Handelsregister and decide for yourself, I got some PE vibes from it. I chickened out and went to someone else, luckily Germany has quite a few private MDs specializing on lyme and other tickborne diseases. What I got in general: most treatments are not evidence based and theres lots of snake oil around, some of the patients are very desparate, me included back then. PS: I made good progress, but am still on meds since. Apparently there's no eradication for late stage lyme. Maybe there are lucky cases, but the slow growth of borrelia spirochetes makes treatment very tedious, much like or even worse than with tuberculosis. I am sure that their treatment actually does help, but it is kind of a hail mary (combo of broad spectrum antibiotics is basically applying blunt force).

Re: 15-minute at-home Lyme disease tick test

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Post by gentlewater »

Loughla wrote: post #147
gentlewater wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recognizable. I try to increase how much of my wage I save, in case I can’t continue working for ever. My best answer for my own sake is just burnout, exasperated by some underlying depression. I can have good periods when job stress is low and I make good life choices. Incidentally, I had a blood test show borreliosis randomly 10 years ago, but doubt that’s relevant.

If your job is impacting your health, literally do something else. I know it's seemingly flippant but it's real advice. I left a very high stress job for one that pays less, but has zero stress. Within 1 week I had to come off the blood pressure medicine. Within 2 months I started weaning off the anxiety meds. It's like I've been looking at life through frosted glass, and it's suddenly clear. I wish I had done this s…

Thanks for the advice. I don’t feel like my job is that bad, honestly. I’m an IT consultant and there’s always just a little too much that needs to be done at my current client. I’m extremely motivated for the task though, and end up overextending time and time again. There are definitely aspects of the project that are stress inducing (big org, lots of meetings, lots of different consulting agencies).
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