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They did not. They're still occupying a buffer zone, have broken the ceasefire countless times, and are blocking people from crossing. Israel razed Gaza to the ground. It was a genocide.

Don’t wrestle with pigs or argue with Zionists about Israel (though the former will at least avoid accusing you of things you’re not).

So Zionists are pigs?

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One reasonable possibility is they're referring to people like Ben-Gvir who have themselves claimed that Zionism means fighting for Israeli control over more territory like the West Bank. They're the ones calling the shots right now. I don't know whether Zionists 78 years ago would've agreed, it's possible. To some it still means favoring any existence of a Jewish state. The inertia isn't there because aside from the…

Let's not forget that while some people like to point to "From the River (Jordan) to the (Red) Sea" as some "gotcha!" that some Palestians want to "exterminate" Israel... it was actually Likud's official election slogan in the 70s and 80s just as ... oh, let me check, Netanyahu, was getting involved in all of this, formally becoming Likud's leader in 1993.

Then please explain in your own words what "From the River (Jordan) to the (Red) Sea" means?

And the destruction of Israel is the explicit goal of Hamas as stated in their charter.

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it" and called for holy war to establish an Islamic state across historic Palestine.

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Let's not forget that while some people like to point to "From the River (Jordan) to the (Red) Sea" as some "gotcha!" that some Palestians want to "exterminate" Israel... it was actually Likud's official election slogan in the 70s and 80s just as ... oh, let me check, Netanyahu, was getting involved in all of this, formally becoming Likud's leader in 1993.

Then please explain in your own words what "From the River (Jordan) to the (Red) Sea" means? And the destruction of Israel is the explicit goal of Hamas as stated in their charter. "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it" and called for holy war to establish an Islamic state across historic Palestine.

And surely you’ll reply with what Likud meant.

Look, to be very clear: Hamas is absolutely a terrorist organization who has caused constant harm to both Israelis and the average Palestinian they purport to represent (there have been no elections since 2006, Hamas are the only people with weapons in Gaza, and the average citizen might as well be a hostage - and frankly they’d turn against Hamas a lot more if Israel didn’t steadily inflict collective punishment against them like turning off their electricity or even drinking water for days or weeks for actions of Hamas. All that is doing is making sympathizers of them).

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You're not a Zionist, but you then proceed to make a Zionist argument? The Palestinians were the only people living on the land before the settlers came. That included Jews and Christians, because Palestinians are not a homogeneous group. The Zionist settlers are not indigenous, they had no right to settle there. They also took the UN resolution and just started a war where they razed 500 villages. I'm sure if the Pa…

"The Palestinians were the only people living on the land before the settlers came" And native americans were living in Canada, US, and Mexico before settlers came. The Palestinians are hardly unique in losing land in a war. In fact this is basically the norm in human history. What is almost unique is how Palestinians have made their lives much much worse pathetically trying to get the land back when they have absolu…

The Palestinians did not start the war. Israel has started every war against the Palestinians, including the 1948 one.

Israelis are not indigenous (there are rare exceptions of Mizrahis or Jerusalem Palestinians with some form of citizenship), they are colonists.

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Common term for about 75% of democrats under 50, who must be Jew-haters, of course. Sorry, ethnonationalism just isn’t a popular ideology, and the word is, in practice, just a shorthand for an instance of that. You’ve lapped up hasbarist propaganda to such an extent that it’s started to be reality.

Thank you for providing a perfect example of how the word zionist has become a replacement for kike among jew-haters.

You can stay paranoid or you can choose to face reality. Up to you.

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What do you mean there isn't a single jew living in Gaza? How is that relevant? That is entirely beside the point. If you had the option to live as a full citizen in Israel, being told you're part of the dominant ethnicity that's treated as human beings; or staying in Gaza, where you are being bombed to death by the IDF, I wonder which you would choose? Your argument is essentially stating the conditions of apartheid…

Between apartheid and genocide Hamas supporters really love using words wrong.

Where's the Hamas supporter?
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