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Google Hits 50% IPv6

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Re: Google Hits 50% IPv6

#11

First thing I do on a fresh Linux install is set ipv6 to deactivated. Fixes all my initial Linux install problems. I don't question it, it just works every time.

Something is very wrong with your network then. I never needed to disable IPv6. Maybe you should question it.

Fair enough. I do question it often.

It's a standard Asus router but it's given me a lot of ire. I hate to say it but it's never a problem when I install windows on the same machines

(I'm currently in the process of trying to completely remove windows from my life)

Re: Google Hits 50% IPv6

#12
post #3

And 32% is all llm/bots using AWS and other "pay for ipv4 IP" use cases.

As someone on the fighting end of scrapers, this is absolutely not true. If anything I should bais towards v6 as the traffic is on par better than v4

Re: Google Hits 50% IPv6

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post #3

And 32% is all llm/bots using AWS and other "pay for ipv4 IP" use cases.

Citation needed. These numbers are quite consistent with the growth pattern that started well before usable LLMs were even a thing.

Re: Google Hits 50% IPv6

#14
Google hits 50% IPv6, very good for accessing websites.

But my TP-Link router blocks by default inbound IPv6 connections, without any option to configure it, still bad for pure IPv6 bidirectional streaming, gaming or services on home networks.

Re: Google Hits 50% IPv6

#15
I’ve yet to live anywhere where the available mainstream ISPs were willing or able to provide IPv6 service. I’d be happy to use it, if I were able.

I also have built cloud infrastructure for multiple SaaS providers with tens of thousands of customers over the past decade. Only one customer I’m aware of has ever even requested IPv6 support. And if customers aren’t asking for it, my employers have never been interested in the full network re-architecture required to truly support it internally.

There are still several basic services you can’t run IPv6-only in AWS, and a handful of AWS service features that don’t support it at all.

As a sysadmin for decades now, I’ve always found IPv6 to be overengineered and in many ways completely ridiculous. But I’d love to be supporting it in everything I do. Only I still can’t, even after 20+ years of being lectured about it; even after complete IPv4 exhaustion has been reached. I don’t think we’re ever going to turn IPv4 off. At best it will be progressively hidden, even from technical users. And folks like me will just have to keep building workarounds to patch the holes where IPv6 still doesn’t work.

Re: Google Hits 50% IPv6

#17
Great example of how fixing things "the correct way" does not seem to work sometimes.

They added those new addresses that can store more information.. but this requires a rewrite of old software to make it work.

If they used the old >bolting on top< method by extending ip4 from 4 octets to 8 (or more) octets, then old software could be extended much easier too / probably addresses could be simply mechanically translated too, so ancient software can work.

Re: Google Hits 50% IPv6

#18

I wonder if there will ever come a day when IPv6 will provide a better web experience than IPv4. At the moment pretty much every website is reachable via IPv4 but a lot not via IPv6. Will there be a day when this turns around?

> a better web experience than IPv4 That's already the case. IPv6 is often faster because most ISPs these days use cgnat for IPv4.

True but not deploying any IPv4 connectivity would be a worse experience than not deploying IPv6.

Re: Google Hits 50% IPv6

#19

I wonder if there will ever come a day when IPv6 will provide a better web experience than IPv4. At the moment pretty much every website is reachable via IPv4 but a lot not via IPv6. Will there be a day when this turns around?

> a better web experience than IPv4 That's already the case. IPv6 is often faster because most ISPs these days use cgnat for IPv4.

That fraction of a millisecond doesn't meaningfully translate into a better experience for users.

Re: Google Hits 50% IPv6

#20
Meanwhile T-Mobile/Odido in the Netherlands is still not supporting IPv6 despite promising to have been working on it for years.

Ubiquity gateways also seem to not support it sadly. It would be awesome if they supported something like Hurricane Electric’s tunneling.

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