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Re: Pre-2022 Books

#121
Even though I started Means and Motive ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GYCZJVGX ) 5 years ago, and it was written without any AI use, I was worried people might have this concern, given the 2026 publication date.

For a sanity check, I did run the first page through an online AI checker and it confirmed what I already knew: 100% human.

Re: Pre-2022 Books

#123

I've been consciously doing that for reference books for the past three years because Amazon is absolutely littered with AI-generated non-fiction. I have my own ideological reasons too, but the main problem is that most of that AI-generated reference stuff is just of incredibly poor quality. It's meant to saturate the platform as cheaply as possible, so no one actually does any fact-checking, editing, layout, and so…

I'm keeping my pre-2023 history books and encyclopedias.

Similarly, when all of this started happening I went and bought some history books for anything that seemed like it would be useful later.

Re: Pre-2022 Books

#124

It's one of the reasons I don't want to update my free book about Ruby: https://leanpub.com/rubyisforfun - written by a human, and will stay the same forever I think. The moment you touch it to update - immediately changes the date from 2022-05-26 to 2026 and all the value is gone

Thanks for the book. If you want to update it, why don't you slap a 2nd edition on the cover and some No AI sigil (I saw this strategy on the books of Nils M Holm from Lulu).

It does not matter, to be honest. Slowly people are realizing that nobody checks anything anymore, and when they check, nobody cares about positives or negatives, be them true or false. Actually, if you write something by hand today, all you’re doing is slowing yourself down, because truthfully nobody else will do that. Do you really think that you will have 100 times the benefit for doing 100 times more work than the other medíocre competition? No, because the audience does not care, and will care less and less as time goes on.

Re: Pre-2022 Books

#125

And there might be no way to prove you really wrote something Post-2022. I wrote a long article, all by hand. I never used any LLMs, even for searching. I checked it with a couple of AI detection tools and they confidently said that 60% of the article was written by AI.

How would you prove you wrote something prior to 2022?

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Re: Pre-2022 Books

#126
” Perhaps we’ll get used to this new tool, and move on.”

Perhaps we’ll be flooded with slop to the point where nobody can distinguish reality from fiction anymore, because it takes too long to check and reason about it with our outdated tools and thinking processes. Then perhaps people will lose faith in the “truth” and simply accept that one-sided ideology and biased belief is all that exists and matters, and corrupt leaders (at all levels) will make use of that to sway masses of useful idiots.

Wait…

Re: Pre-2022 Books

#127
post #77

Anything that feels like it came out of matrix multiplication immediately loses the value for me. Something about the industrialization of thinking makes it uninteresting. similar to frozen pasta from the shelves, heated and served.

If the writer did not put effort to write, why would you put effort to read? Writing became 1000x faster but reading stayed the same speed.

Re: Pre-2022 Books

#128

I've been consciously doing that for reference books for the past three years because Amazon is absolutely littered with AI-generated non-fiction. I have my own ideological reasons too, but the main problem is that most of that AI-generated reference stuff is just of incredibly poor quality. It's meant to saturate the platform as cheaply as possible, so no one actually does any fact-checking, editing, layout, and so…

It’s funny when people dismiss this as some kind of Luddite argument, when the reality is so simple: you have a producer-consumer system where the producer has been accelerated 1000x but the consumer remained the same. How can that work?

Re: Pre-2022 Books

#129

Props to the author for not mentioning low-background steel.

I don't know, there's probably one person on Earth who hasn't heard of low background steel and it's a fun story, I wouldn't want them to miss out.

On its own it's a good fun fact. But just look for it in this comments section, when it becomes a reflex to mention it in relation to slop/generated content it slowly loses its color. (That's what she said)

Re: Pre-2022 Books

#130
post #67

The glasses are a little rose-colored here. As if anything written The issue with content >2022 isn't that it's ai-generated per se, it's that it's still slop.

Yeah exactly. There is so much slop because people do like slop and they liked it before ChatGPT. Nothing has substantially changed.
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