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Loupe – A iOS app that raises awareness about what native apps can see

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Re: Loupe – A iOS app that raises awareness about what native apps can see

#41
post #8

Damn. The "iPhone last setup or erased on ..." is really nasty. What can a user really do about that? I feel like this should be fudged somehow by the OS.

Maybe I'm being really thick, but why is this information that the OS would make available to apps?

Re: Loupe – A iOS app that raises awareness about what native apps can see

#42
post #22

Volume creation date is pretty egregious. I don't see any reason that and Pasteboard changeCount should be so granular. The "Installed Apps Probe" leak also surprised me. It is better than the current state of Android, though.

Pasteboard counter exists to help apps to not ask again about the same item in the buffer. And nothing stops from using reset it every day.

Allowing an app to access the pasteboard without the user explicitly pasting into the app is weird to me. Maybe the thing I have in the pasteboard is not for this app but left over from use in another app. Since there's no easy way to clear the pasteboard, this will happen often. Maybe it's because I'm not an app dev that this doesn't make sense to me????

Re: Loupe – A iOS app that raises awareness about what native apps can see

#43
post #20

This is why I avoid installing apps and don’t have a lot of them.

...wouldn't it be better to have a pocket computer you own?

It would be even better if app devs weren't pieces of shit making apps whose sole purpose is to gather all of this data to sell to other pieces of shits while skinning their app as a game or other app to trick users into thinking it's worth installing.

Fighting devs being able to make money in this manner is not dissimilar to getting made a drug dealers. As long as users want their product, they will sell the product.

Re: Loupe – A iOS app that raises awareness about what native apps can see

#44

Yea, it's infuriating that most of the HN crowd thinks the apps are better then web. Apps can spy on you way more than web. It's the reason every website says "please download the app". If it was better for them to spy on you via the website they wouldn't ask you to download the app.

There are plenty of other (better?) reasons why developers might want to push apps.

More APIs, less friction selling stuff, business presence right on the homescreen.

Re: Loupe – A iOS app that raises awareness about what native apps can see

#45
post #8

Damn. The "iPhone last setup or erased on ..." is really nasty. What can a user really do about that? I feel like this should be fudged somehow by the OS.

Seems like in general the iPhone was not designed to avoid fingerprinting from installed apps. Only protection would be avoid installing apps and use the web browser when possible.

This. This is why everyone who wants to fingerprint and collect tons of data on end users pushes them hard on installing an app. The amount of valuable data is 10x what’s available in the browser

Re: Loupe – A iOS app that raises awareness about what native apps can see

#46
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pasteboard counter exists to help apps to not ask again about the same item in the buffer. And nothing stops from using reset it every day.

Allowing an app to access the pasteboard without the user explicitly pasting into the app is weird to me. Maybe the thing I have in the pasteboard is not for this app but left over from use in another app. Since there's no easy way to clear the pasteboard, this will happen often. Maybe it's because I'm not an app dev that this doesn't make sense to me????

iOS will ask for pasteboard permission every time an app wants to read the actual contents.

Re: Loupe – A iOS app that raises awareness about what native apps can see

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...wouldn't it be better to have a pocket computer you own?

It would be even better if app devs weren't pieces of shit making apps whose sole purpose is to gather all of this data to sell to other pieces of shits while skinning their app as a game or other app to trick users into thinking it's worth installing. Fighting devs being able to make money in this manner is not dissimilar to getting made a drug dealers. As long as users want their product, they will sell the product…

Most people don't know and we are seeing that things get slipped in at a later date

Re: Loupe – A iOS app that raises awareness about what native apps can see

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allowing an app to access the pasteboard without the user explicitly pasting into the app is weird to me. Maybe the thing I have in the pasteboard is not for this app but left over from use in another app. Since there's no easy way to clear the pasteboard, this will happen often. Maybe it's because I'm not an app dev that this doesn't make sense to me????

iOS will ask for pasteboard permission every time an app wants to read the actual contents.

& we can set ask each time, always allow, never allow per app.

Re: Loupe – A iOS app that raises awareness about what native apps can see

#50
post #20

This is why I avoid installing apps and don’t have a lot of them.

...wouldn't it be better to have a pocket computer you own?

if you think "desktop" operating systems aren't even worse on this, you're very mistaken
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