cool idea!
Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites
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#62> A problem repeatedly occurred on https://cauenapier.com/ People are flooding the channel with messages, causing the widget to use too many resources on ios; and the website is being endlessly reloaded. Any idea how to fix this? Bonus points for user friendly non technical solutions, ie is there a way to design an online social space where people want to collaborate and their first thought isn’t trolling?
I’m not on pc so can’t inspect it, but make it a sandboxes iframe so it can’t interact with the parent site.
Is there a way to throttle iframe cpu usage ?
You could probably queue messages, cull old messages, cap concurrent connections. That may be the issue is too many peers
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#63In the "this is why we can't have nice things" category, the first thing I saw was someone calling themselves "dick and balls". :(
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah, drive those horrible people out of social spaces. I want to talk to other people without racist assholes bumbling around. Being a racist asshole carries some inherent risks too, like people choosing not to let you enter their spaces.
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#65I just took a look at the page's own 'town square'. At the moment, it's largely full of people saying offensive things for the sake of it.
Maybe a really lightweight fast LLM could moderate messages in realtime. Not sure how pricey that would get though.
Extremely if not behind substantially cheaper anti spam measures.
Further it may still make sense to use human reports to gate some automation even if it slows response.
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#66The contrast between the example screenshots and the standard internet behavior in the live demo is hilarious
To paraphrase, there's no scheme for moderation / censoring / filtering that survives contact with the Internet. It simply can't be done. People take it as a challenge, and you can't design a system that handles it while remaining useful.
If you ban words, people will introduce typos / different spelling. If you ban concepts people will change the concepts (see the "unalive" thing that's popular now). If people want to be miserable, they will be miserable. And they'll invent new words, or use euphemisms to get their point across.
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But why not kick them out? Why bother with a shadow site for them?
The same reason people get shadowbanned. If they know they are banned they will attempt to work around it.
One day I'll find out that I've been shadow banned from HN, and all of you were bots all along, lolz
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#68I made something similar last year: A p2p chat popup (that sits on bottom right of the page as a bubble) that allows all visitors to chat with each other. It had simple keyword based moderation in-built (can be easily bypassed though). Was planning to add github oauth to get a known identity and persistent messaging so visitors can chat with each other across sites. Instead of a webmaster adding script to their site,…
It sounds like a nice idea, but probably only one of those things that work only once at scale - with hundreds of millions of pages, you will only meet others on the most common ones unless the extension is already very popular?
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah, drive those horrible people out of social spaces. I want to talk to other people without racist assholes bumbling around. Being a racist asshole carries some inherent risks too, like people choosing not to let you enter their spaces.
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I didn’t say they weren’t.
I said they can fuck off from any spaces I have a voice in.
Social pariahs are people. Doesn’t mean I’m going to tolerate them around me.
You choose to be a social pariah, you live with the social consequences of that.
They should have food, water, shelter, and healthcare. They don’t get my attention, respect, or acceptance.
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#70This is actually really cool. We’ve needed this concept everywhere in technology. Something like this would have prevented the isolation and loneliness technology and the internet has created.
I don’t know all the answers, but joining people together, and reminders there are real people still there as we’ve moved from the physical world to the virtual world is an important part of the progression. In 50-100 years we will either have this epiphany or we will fail miserably.