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Slow breathing modulates brain function and risk behavior

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Re: Slow breathing modulates brain function and risk behavior

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Post by culopatin »

cryzinger wrote: post #4

Parasympathetic nervous activation increased risk-taking behavior? That's interesting/unexpected (at least to me). Also, this part caught my eye: > The selective impact of prolonged exhalation breathing on reward responsiveness has important implications for clinical contexts, such as anxiety, panic disorder, and depression, given their distinct autonomic signatures and maladaptive reward processing. By enhancing car…

Makes sense to me. The only way I can dip in a snow melt lake is if I slow down my breathing, slow my thinking and dip.

Re: Slow breathing modulates brain function and risk behavior

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Post by cryzinger »

thisoneisreal wrote: post #8
cryzinger wrote: post #4

Parasympathetic nervous activation increased risk-taking behavior? That's interesting/unexpected (at least to me). Also, this part caught my eye: > The selective impact of prolonged exhalation breathing on reward responsiveness has important implications for clinical contexts, such as anxiety, panic disorder, and depression, given their distinct autonomic signatures and maladaptive reward processing. By enhancing car…

I agree it's counterintuitive, but it makes sense when I think about how, for example, it's the least neurotic people who do high-risk activities like base jumping or mountain climbing. Fear drives you away from threatening things, lack of fear allows you to move toward them more comfortably.

Ah, that does make a lot of sense!

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Post by gorgoiler »

chopete3 wrote: post #2

"When you feel so mad that you want to roar, take a breath and count to four." - Daniel Tiger's mom

My favourite of these is.

“If you feel jealous, talk about it, then we’ll figure something out”

In which one of the children wants the other one’s cool toy so the parent’s response is to encourage them to ask for it to be shared. Except they aren’t siblings and it’s the mom from the other family teaching their own jealous kid to go ask.

How about this?: Back off cat family, you fair weather commies — that’s Daniel’s bubble wand, not yours. At least share some of your own crap before asking for someone else’s:

”If you feel jealous: shut the fuck up, you can’t just have someone else’s stuff nor should you feel entitled to guilt them into sharing it just because you asked nicely.”

Slightly tongue-in-cheek. Slightly.

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Post by isomorphic »

cryzinger wrote: post #23
thisoneisreal wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree it's counterintuitive, but it makes sense when I think about how, for example, it's the least neurotic people who do high-risk activities like base jumping or mountain climbing. Fear drives you away from threatening things, lack of fear allows you to move toward them more comfortably.

Ah, that does make a lot of sense!

"Everything you've ever wanted is on the other side of fear." (George Addair)

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Post by k__o »

jondwillis wrote: post #25
k__o wrote: post #11

i developed a health issue that has affected my breathing over the past few years and i am cognitively and emotionally destroyed, it has made me realize that breathing is really important

Cmon tell us what it is

condylar resorption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condylar_resorption

its when the tmj sorta dissolves and ur jaw/facial structure collapses as a result. now my airway is like a millimeter

Re: Slow breathing modulates brain function and risk behavior

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Post by adrian_b »

storus wrote: post #14

Weren't 90s of deep breathing supposed to remove all cortisol in the blood? This seems like an opposite result. Also a single prolonged breath was supposed to reset autonomic nervous system. Which research should I trust now?

The title is inaccurate. The results are not about any kind of deep breathing or slow breathing.

The results are specifically about a breathing that is slower due to prolonged exhalation.

This kind of breathing is one of the many kinds of breathing traditionally practiced in yoga and also in many Asian martial arts, each kind for different purposes.

The experiments used in TFA have used a breathing rhythm of 2-second inhalation with 8-second exhalation, which is about the same as how I learned this kind of breathing as a child, from a yoga manual.

I have never heard about a single breathing of any kind to have much effect. For any kind of breathing rhythm you may need to use it from a large fraction of a minute up to a few minutes to have a noticeable effect.

As explained in TFA, this particular kind of breathing rhythm changes the balance between the 2 components of the autonomic nervous system, in favor of the parasympathetic nervous system.

This has the effect to diminish the influence that fear has on making decisions.

TFA is interesting because it provides a scientific confirmation about the usefulness of this kind of breathing rhythm, which has been traditionally used for centuries, if not even for millennia, in India, China and other Asian countries.

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