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Re: Pre-2022 Books

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Same with open source projects (or other software projects in general).

Pre-2022, when someone posts a Show HN, even if it's not something you would normally be interested in, there's a baseline understanding that _someone_ cared enough to spend time and effort to build it. So in a hypothetical future scenario if you do find yourself looking for that particular tool, there was value in you seeing that Show HN so you can revisit it.

Now, I just ignore all Show HN posts.

Re: Pre-2022 Books

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I haven't seen any minimal sign that any of the fiction books I read lately was LLM helped. Writers seem like a particularly anti AI crowd too. Has anyone? Now I'm curious if it's just my particular bubble.

What makes you think you'd recognize it? Do you work a lot with LLMs for fiction writing?

Re: Pre-2022 Books

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I honestly find this a little deranged. I’ve read some AI generated prose before and it’s… boring. It tends to be the mathematical average of all stories, with plots that are heavy on cliche and tropes played straight. If I read a book like that it’s probably just going to be a bad book that I don’t finish. Humans write lots of boring bad books too. Eventually artists will figure out how to use AI to make real art th…

Controversial, but I think photography is still nowhere close in artistic value to paintings. Yes, I've seen the award winning ones etc. Not impressed. It's fine I guess, but not more. Same with laptop music vs instrument music even before AI.

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And there might be no way to prove you really wrote something Post-2022. I wrote a long article, all by hand. I never used any LLMs, even for searching. I checked it with a couple of AI detection tools and they confidently said that 60% of the article was written by AI.

Re: Pre-2022 Books

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does predate AI. AI makes it much faster though and can close the rot-loop.

Get off social media. It’s trash. It was trash before AI and it’s trash now.

HN is social media. And yes, let's get off it too. It's true.

Re: Pre-2022 Books

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post #2

I honestly find this a little deranged. I’ve read some AI generated prose before and it’s… boring. It tends to be the mathematical average of all stories, with plots that are heavy on cliche and tropes played straight. If I read a book like that it’s probably just going to be a bad book that I don’t finish. Humans write lots of boring bad books too. Eventually artists will figure out how to use AI to make real art th…

We can't say "just like to photographers did with photography" or "just like programmers did with higher-level languages." These developments are not analogous to LLMs. The jump into probabilistic text-guessing machines a fundamentally different thing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but AI is about more than the arts. It's about high fructose corn syrup slop everywhere .

Maybe we'll return to curation and talent scouts. Like the pre-internet days of music: Everyone had a demo tape, but nobody wanted to listen to hundres of tapes of slop.

Well, with writing it's more editors and lunches. That's how I got a book contract.

Re: Pre-2022 Books

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In good hands, it can be a great tool, but you usually don't notice that. The issue is that AI allows for a superficial appearance of quality and it takes time to discover that the content is void of deeper insight.

Re: Pre-2022 Books

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And there might be no way to prove you really wrote something Post-2022. I wrote a long article, all by hand. I never used any LLMs, even for searching. I checked it with a couple of AI detection tools and they confidently said that 60% of the article was written by AI.

The thing is, llm token frequency was derived from human writings like yours, and rlhf for good writing practices, like the emdash. So getting ’detected’ on good writing it’s unfortunately to be expected. My broken ESL english is much safer for now
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