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Tesla allegedly in autopilot mode crashes into Texas house, woman killed

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Re: Tesla allegedly in autopilot mode crashes into Texas house, woman killed

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Whether if it is either autopilot or Fools Self Driving mode, if this driver did not have their hands on the wheel then he is absolutely in deep trouble. Tesla themselves got into trouble after previous crashes and are finally telling their drivers to keep their hands on the wheel at all times, and toned down their false advertising.

I can't imagine the lawyers going after him when they can go after the world's only trillionaire.

Re: Tesla allegedly in autopilot mode crashes into Texas house, woman killed

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The title is misleading and shifts blame from the driver to the machine. Ultimately the driver is responsible. Edit: For the folks who seem to think that this is marketed as unsupervised self driving, from Teslas own website it states “Currently enabled features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous.” https://www.tesla.com/fsd

> Ultimately the driver is responsible

Recent lawsuits [1] seem to suggest both are. The driver committed manslaughter and should go to jail. The company sold a dangerous product that killed someone and should pay massive damages.

[1] https://electrek.co/2026/04/16/tesla-facing-up-to-14-billion...

Re: Tesla allegedly in autopilot mode crashes into Texas house, woman killed

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The telemetry will tell the story, not the clickbait news headline based on preliminary information. I seriously doubt FSD would drive into a house.

> telemetry will tell the story

Idk, the death-toll gap between Tesla and Waymo seems to tell a story enough.

Re: Tesla allegedly in autopilot mode crashes into Texas house, woman killed

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The title is misleading and shifts blame from the driver to the machine. Ultimately the driver is responsible. Edit: For the folks who seem to think that this is marketed as unsupervised self driving, from Teslas own website it states “Currently enabled features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous.” https://www.tesla.com/fsd

If full self driving was active then the driver was Tesla.

Re: Tesla allegedly in autopilot mode crashes into Texas house, woman killed

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post #12

The title is misleading and shifts blame from the driver to the machine. Ultimately the driver is responsible. Edit: For the folks who seem to think that this is marketed as unsupervised self driving, from Teslas own website it states “Currently enabled features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous.” https://www.tesla.com/fsd

You might not think so, but there are many people that believe Tesla marketing that FSD is better than paying attention. I struggle convincing my parents that they shouldn't drive if they are likely to fall asleep behind the wheel and it's helpful to categorize an FSD crash separately from a human driver crash.

Re: Tesla allegedly in autopilot mode crashes into Texas house, woman killed

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It's just not a serious technology. Street-by-street speed limit data exists, and where it doesn't, there are laws across the US as to what speed limits are based on area. Tons of map data to tell you where is residential and commercial, a street and a highway, an on-ramp, and so on.

But FSD doesn't abide by speed limits, and Waymo does, and it is truly self-driving.

So, it's all bullshit. Since day one, it's never been a real attempt at autonomous, legal, safe driving.

Re: Tesla allegedly in autopilot mode crashes into Texas house, woman killed

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post #12

The title is misleading and shifts blame from the driver to the machine. Ultimately the driver is responsible. Edit: For the folks who seem to think that this is marketed as unsupervised self driving, from Teslas own website it states “Currently enabled features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous.” https://www.tesla.com/fsd

The tell is the the name. Full Self Driving.

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Re: Tesla allegedly in autopilot mode crashes into Texas house, woman killed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If FSD proves to be demonstrably safer in such a scenario then it would make sense to use it there.

All of the optimism surrounding this industry hinges on "ifs" that never materialize.

It's shocking. I can't understand why people repeatedly fall for it.

Re: Tesla allegedly in autopilot mode crashes into Texas house, woman killed

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Ok, 3 things.

1) I’ve put enough kms on FSD - it’s taken me across Australia a few times, probably 10,000kms in total - to know that it isn’t going to drive into a house.

2) Even if FSD is enabled, there’s loads of things you can do to create an accident like press the brakes or accelerator pedals, which doesn’t necessarily disengage FSD right away, so let’s just wait for the telemetry to get released.

3) Regardless of who was controlling it, why did this guy let his car jump the kerb and go through a house? Why was he going fast enough?

Sad for all involved.

Edit: my experience is HW4 by the way.

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