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Big Tech is stoking unrest in the UK. Why?

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The job market has imploded and the economy hasn't been growing since 2008. There definitely needs to be a cap.

If only there were more customers to grow markets! Hmm I wonder how that could be done…

You are not going to get more customers with higher house prices or through greater youth unemployment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm203nn7lzro

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If they are fed up with immigration they are stupid. “Gee we have declining birth rates and we want to deny this pool of labor that might correct course because they are brown.” The american empire was built on easy immigration. Turns out the tired and poor that we took in can build empires and win europe’s major wars for them.

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If they are fed up with immigration they are stupid. “Gee we have declining birth rates and we want to deny this pool of labor that might correct course because they are brown.” The american empire was built on easy immigration. Turns out the tired and poor that we took in can build empires and win europe’s major wars for them.

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You are fear mongering here. I do think immigration is double edged, but if you look at the statistics I posted it is very far from replacement level. If you would prefer to have immigrants from the EU instead, then something needs to be done about Brexit.

Re: Big Tech is stoking unrest in the UK. Why?

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Immigration has dramatically gone down in the past few years. https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/lo... (figure 2) I think the real problem people are having is that a large amount of those immigrants are now no longer from the EU. But you have Brexit to blame for that.

If people prefer unskilled EU immigration to skilled non-EU immigration its says something about them.

People had a problem with EU immigration before Brexit so I do not think that is it.

I think most of the problem people have is with is to illegal immigration. The sentiment is "stop the boats". There are bizarre things happening in the asylum system. Do we need to consider claims made by people from the EU or the US? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/18/eu-citizens-hand... That is an extreme but there are lots of claims by people from safe countries.

Re: Big Tech is stoking unrest in the UK. Why?

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Immigration has dramatically gone down in the past few years. https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/lo... (figure 2) I think the real problem people are having is that a large amount of those immigrants are now no longer from the EU. But you have Brexit to blame for that.

If people prefer unskilled EU immigration to skilled non-EU immigration its says something about them. People had a problem with EU immigration before Brexit so I do not think that is it. I think most of the problem people have is with is to illegal immigration. The sentiment is "stop the boats". There are bizarre things happening in the asylum system. Do we need to consider claims made by people from the EU or the U…

Small boat arrivals and asylum applications are down and deportations are up: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70989jrdweo

Hard to complain here with the current trajectory.

Re: Big Tech is stoking unrest in the UK. Why?

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If people prefer unskilled EU immigration to skilled non-EU immigration its says something about them. People had a problem with EU immigration before Brexit so I do not think that is it. I think most of the problem people have is with is to illegal immigration. The sentiment is "stop the boats". There are bizarre things happening in the asylum system. Do we need to consider claims made by people from the EU or the U…

Small boat arrivals and asylum applications are down and deportations are up: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70989jrdweo Hard to complain here with the current trajectory.

I know, but the people complaining about immigration do not. I partly blame the media and social media, and partly politicians focus on net migration numbers.

Re: Big Tech is stoking unrest in the UK. Why?

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Simple answer is power, look at how things have changed since Musk bought the largest communication platform on the planet. Look at who's backing him and what they want. The UK's stance goes right against the values and goals these billionaires want and that's basically to do whatever they want without recourse. What better way to sow diversion than to stoke civil unrest and cause change to the systems that stand in…

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Re: Big Tech is stoking unrest in the UK. Why?

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As a brit, I can confirm I am not at all fed up with immigration. Your comment is unnecessary, unsubstantiated, doesn't add anything to the discussion and is just going to cause arguments in its current form.

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The most likely candidates are places like Bradford and Birmingham, which are still - according to wikipedia - 60%+ white british, that's without even considering british asian or other people born in and native to the UK.

Again, sorry, I can't find any sources to support your facts here, maybe I looked in a different place to you, so perhaps you could share your sources?

Re: Big Tech is stoking unrest in the UK. Why?

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You mean the made up idea of immigration as a problem? Sure. What Brits probably want more is to rejoin the EU, get back some leverage on the world scene and dig themselves our of the brexit hole

I don't think it's a made up idea that immigration is a problem, some people clearly, definitely consider it a problem, and it can cause problems. But it's a problem that's been heavily worked on recently and has had a lot of success in solving in the UK over the past 2 years.

This is why it's completely barmy to suggest the average brit is fed up of immigration now, and I'm not sure why many people pointing that out are being heavily downvoted.

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That seems like an inadequate explanation of why Elon Musk, who is not a Brit, is investing so much time and energy into this issue.

It is easier when that is the zeitgeist. If every other country in Europe has the same thing going on, it becomes easier to campaign on that sort of stuff. Suddenly the extreme parties don't seem that extreme, and people start to question whether or not previously extreme opinions are that extreme anymore.
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