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Re: The AirPods Effect

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I don’t mind talking to strangers, I’m actually a very chatty and genial person. Some would even say that I don’t know how to shut up. I just don’t want people (strangers or otherwise) to interrupt me at times when I don’t want to talk. My question is, why do you think you’re entitled to consume strangers’ time?

I think we see things differently. I view conversation as an offer, with no expectations either way. Whereas you seem to put more weight on it, I'd guess because the ADHD you mentioned in another comment means interruptions are more impactful for you. I'm not sure there is a way to bridge this gap, because for me (based both on my understanding of modern psychological research and personal experience), a world withou…

> I'm willing to throw your mental wellbeing out with the bathwater on this, though I feel bad about doing so.

So what, disabled people should just stay home? That’s your answer, just make society hostile to people like me?

I bet there’s a middle road that you’re not considering, but because it’s not important to you, the disabled person should just accept a lower quality of life for your convenience.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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It's not just a social or class issue. A lot of women wear headphones to discourage creepy men from hitting on them or sexually harassing them. The HN crowd skews toward young men and I think many of you don't understand that some women get this constantly on public transit.

Having to buy fancy headphones to solve a social problem is what makes it a class issue. That's the subtle error in the typical response.

You missed the point. Cheap headphones work just as well for this purpose. It's not a class issue.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Luckily, nobody is saying you have to buy fancy headphones.

Unfortunately, somebody doesn't understand the concept of structural incentives. Also, do not reply to me any further, your sarcasm is not welcome. It is incredibly rude.

Take your Social Sciences 101 attitude somewhere else. And while you're at it, don't tell me what to do, thanks.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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The place between my house and all of the other places I might need to go? Is your argument that people should just not go to the doctor or get driver's licenses unless they're willing to interact with every stranger who wants to talk to them lest they be "rude"? I don't understand how you can in good faith claim that needing to do something obligatory outside of their house or apartment is actively opting into socia…

You can simply decline the conversation. It's not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be. I'm not saying you have to actively opt into social interaction, whatever that means. I'm saying its reasonable for others to offer social interaction if you're in public.

"You can simply decline the conversation" and "it's not a big deal" are entirely subjective and based on the assumption that being extroverted is normal. Your rules of etiquette are that I need to go out of my way to give people the opportunity to talk to me so that I can tell them not to rather than just signaling to them that I don't want to (which saves us both time and lets me quietly enjoy some music on the meantime), which is just bizarre.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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One thing I find concerning is the amount of people I see driving these days with AirPods. Don’t think they can hear emergency sirens or honks very well that way. I think it it’s even illegal in some locations. I assume they do this in older cars without a way to connect their phone or just like immersive sound.

AirPods have a transparency mode and are also fda approved hearing aids now. For some folks it is actually safer to wear them than to not wear them.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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That doesn't sound like much of a useful trick, unless you plan on switching professions to bond trader.

This is a classic myopic HN reply. I will be downvoted for this harsh response: You fuckin' dummy, "bond trader" was an example profession that is (1) high income and (2) needs to arrive early to work. Probably most lawyers and many medical doctors would be simliar. Also, if you own multiple pizza stores that need to get started early, the same rules would apply.

It was an intentionally myopic reply. Most jobs have fixed start times that people can't change around to avoid traffic unless you want to add an extra hour of dawdling before and after work. When someone complains about commute traffic, do you suggest they switch profession to lawyer?

There's no "trick" here. Its just a repackaged form of what literally every commuter knows that leaving early can beat traffic.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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> I don't remember any time in my life where it ever felt normal to me to randomly talk to strangers > And I'm not an introvert! See that's interesting, because I *am* an introvert, but I'm quite happy to sit and talk to strangers. I don't mind it at all. One of the few cultural similarities that I feel like London has with Scotland (where I live) is that you can just talk to people. People will talk. If you go to Gl…

> It takes about an hour to walk the mile or so back from school because he's got to talk to all the old guys and ask how they're doing. Wow, this really pushes back against the all might HN narrative that the world is now too dangerous to allow this. You have found a real gem of living. My guess: The farmers are probably all too happy to have a young curious lad to talk with a few times a week!

He's too little to walk by himself just now - he's not quite six, and there are a couple of busy roads.

But he'll just kind of wander about in the park and chat to folk, talk for hours to people at the farmer's market, that kind of thing.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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That is by design, so they are not interrupted by random coworkers.

Well we are a science lab and need to constantly communicate about work so that’s not good.

There are better ways to do that than interrupting someone in the middle of flow.

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> And people now don’t feel neglected when you keep the Pods in your ear. I disagree with this. Pods in ears are essentially a "do not disturb" sign for most people. Being around people who regularly have the "do not disturb" sign feels neglecting. People who might initiate conversation don't know if they will even be heard if they try to talk, so why bother. I would rather be alone than in a room of people who are a…

This is how I interpret headphones in/on people's ears. I live in a mid-sized town in the US and I swear it's over 80% of people I see walking through the forest trail system have headphones in. I wave and say hello to everyone without headphones. I find it bizarre how many people go outside and walk in the forest just to block out the natural sounds. Or how everyone in the grocery store has them in. I feel like I'm…

I go to forrest to listen to podcasts while not sitting. The purpose is walking and it is more pleasant experience then walking on streets - ground is softer, there is shade, it is cooler, it looks better.
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