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VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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Honestly, the UK already shot itself in the foot. Now they're shooting their other foot. And they keep voting for the Labor party... And yet, govt will find it's impossible to regulate the creativity of software engineers.

keep voting for the labour party?

this is the first time in more than a decade that its not tories in charge, and to get there, labour also had to become conservatives

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#162
post #123

Most VPN companies won't implement age verification, because their purpose is privacy. This is really an attempt to ban VPNs. This won't be popular when 70% of the population uses VPNs.

> when 70% of the population uses VPNs. To be honest, unfortunately, I'm not really sure about this one.

A large chunk of them is from China :p

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#163
post #45

I've been using a VPN in the UK on my laptop and phone exclusively for 20 years, and the state has been working with ISPs to make "connection records" for most of that time. On mobile a VPN isn't always effective in avoid geoblocks. Some apps are able to determine I'm in the UK and still ask for ID - reddit is one for example, if you stumble on to an adult subreddit. Using the web interface avoids this. The UK has al…

Company like this exist

https://www.geocomply.com/

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#164
post #14

Good thing Brexit happened to prevent government overreach.

Better then performing a social experiment on children.

This is not to stop children from doing that. This is primarily to deanonymise as many people as possible, before the next steps come into force (scanning all files and messages on the every Internet - connected devices, hardware attestation of all the internet - connected devices, etc)

So when the citizens inevitably start protesting against the oppression, it's easier to subdue them.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#166

There are few things more exciting, in relationship to attempting to restrict access to (data) communications, than a government which thinks geeks won't find ways around such. Now sit back, relax, and let's wait for the next generation of encrypted channels solution development.

Oh, they're in motion already. There are other countries that tried to ban VPNs for decades now, that sparked multiple great avenues of development. It's exciting to think I'll become a dissident like my parents, just because I don't want a slimy, rightwing, greasy friends of Epstein and other known abusers to ID and surveil me.

but isn't it the labour party pushing this?

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#167
post #45

I've been using a VPN in the UK on my laptop and phone exclusively for 20 years, and the state has been working with ISPs to make "connection records" for most of that time. On mobile a VPN isn't always effective in avoid geoblocks. Some apps are able to determine I'm in the UK and still ask for ID - reddit is one for example, if you stumble on to an adult subreddit. Using the web interface avoids this. The UK has al…

On the mobile apps can check your SIMs country code. This is how bluesky knows the UK users (they used to use IP, not anymore)

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#168
post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Social media got worse. We've had time to witness the damage of a dopamine-doomscroll. I personally know children who've posted too much, and children who've been solicited directly by adults, both to try and meet and for nudes. And we've seen the complete lack of positive action from platforms. Roblox is full of paedophiles and Grok was letting you nudify your classmates just a few months ago. These places aren't su…

Requiring ID (which is what age gating is) for VPNs is absurd. Given that SSH can act as a proxy service, are you going to require all ssh connections out of the country to be age verified?

Facial modeling has been good enough for porn.

I'd be surprised if the law requires much beyond a vague best effort from service providers, but many already block connections from known server hosts and some even VPNs.

An airtight block is not what's required; stopping social media being mainstream for kids is.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#169
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or perhaps we should expect parents to take some responsibility for their kids' screen use?

Ok, can you explain what that looks like in practice or is it just some abstract feel-good words?

Sure! With my kids it's meant not buying them internet-enabled devices (or disabling the internet access, eg smart TVs), only having 1 family computer in a shared space, and managing my own local network. There also aren't screens in the house through the week.

On the flip side, I let them read whatever they want, including things that are upsetting or that other parents would say aren't appropriate, and I talk to them about what they've read.

Overall, I think these policies have meant more thoughtful media consumption, and more time outside and with friends. I'm not enough of a fool to think our rules are enforced at friends' houses, but we've chosen to live in a community that's largely on the same page.

None of this stuff is easy, but as a parent, it's the job.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#170
post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that it's coordinated in all "Western" countries show it's a real conspiracy, not just a theory.

If your argument is that a group is conspiring to establish policy in a country, the idea that it's happening in many, many countries means the threshold for evidence is now much higher, since the group should be able to have much more control.

8 individuals have as much money, and much more power, than half of the globe's population.

The fact that you think there's no such group is simply insane.

I mean, the very agenda of their upcoming conference was on the front page of HackerNews a few days ago...

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