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VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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post #10

The great firewall of UK.

Feel like there ought to be some Sinn Fein backed point to point connection in Belfast that leverages the Good Friday Agreement to get around this.

It would have to alter the voice of anyone on it to make them sound ridiculous.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#42
post #9

Every corporate I know of, uses VPNs. Especially when workers connect from home. Is the UK government really interested in going up against the majority of their business partners...?

It would not be hard to write laws to restrict one use but not the other. They may be the same tech but the use-cases are quite different.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#43
bruhghghbmphf, the VPNs! the VPNs! can't have those! What's that good sir? You say ssh? Do not shh me sir. Oh, SSH... yes, SSH, can't have that! It's elementary, any system which one accesses MUST report to parliament. Personally Identifiable Documents for General Evaluation Of Ne'er-do-wells. We'll call it the P.I.D.G.E.O.N. network.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#44
While I do support restricting social media to younger minds, the way they go about it, and the collateral damage that will result is unacceptable. For about 500ms I thought I might have found the "one thing" I agree with this government, but nope... I'm considering whether it's time to leave the UK. There is an air of hostility here towards... well everything.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#45
I've been using a VPN in the UK on my laptop and phone exclusively for 20 years, and the state has been working with ISPs to make "connection records" for most of that time.

On mobile a VPN isn't always effective in avoid geoblocks. Some apps are able to determine I'm in the UK and still ask for ID - reddit is one for example, if you stumble on to an adult subreddit. Using the web interface avoids this.

The UK has also moved to force ISPs to block certain bittorrent search engines.

The UK is not shy when it comes to invading your privacy or censoring the Internet.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#46
post #8

what if instead of this age gate or whatever government is doing, what if we simply said these big companies need to self police and if a child can reach their service they have to pay the child like lets say GBP 10k per instance? remove all "reasonable step" shield to hide behind. for example, a shopkeeper can't say they took "reasonable steps" if they sell alcohol to a child so why should a website be any different…

> these big companies need to self police It's not possible to prevent a person (of any age) from reaching a specific website if they are determined enough. Full stop.

Fwiw they acknowledge this and claim the goal of this regulation is to drastically increase friction, not render it impossible

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#47
post #8

what if instead of this age gate or whatever government is doing, what if we simply said these big companies need to self police and if a child can reach their service they have to pay the child like lets say GBP 10k per instance? remove all "reasonable step" shield to hide behind. for example, a shopkeeper can't say they took "reasonable steps" if they sell alcohol to a child so why should a website be any different…

Or perhaps we should expect parents to take some responsibility for their kids' screen use?

Don't be daft. It's not the parent's responsibility to monitor and care for their kids.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#48
post #8

what if instead of this age gate or whatever government is doing, what if we simply said these big companies need to self police and if a child can reach their service they have to pay the child like lets say GBP 10k per instance? remove all "reasonable step" shield to hide behind. for example, a shopkeeper can't say they took "reasonable steps" if they sell alcohol to a child so why should a website be any different…

Or perhaps we should expect parents to take some responsibility for their kids' screen use?

You expect the average parent to outwit Meta and TikTok and their teams of psychologists scheming to get their kids attention?

The social media companies could have done the socially responsible thing a decade ago and avoided all this.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#49
Funny how quickly "won't someone think of the children" turns into mandatory government ID for private services, banning necessary and secure (and encrypted) communications systems, and locking children out of access to the de facto communication systems of the modern era.

This is a privacy nightmare on all fronts and a horrible limit on freedom of speech. These kids will be learning how to drive a car, yet unable to contact their extended family over Messenger or follow news on Twitter. For everyone else, it means no anonymity or secrecy which has a chilling effect on free speech at a time when fascism is growing within democratic countries and dissidents are being imprisoned or murdered.

Yes, there are some really big problems with social media, but keeping children away from it doesn't fix the problems - it just leaves them for the rest of us to deal with. Let's fix the root of the problem, starting with the recommendation algorithms that inherently polarize people by building echo chambers around them and pushing divisive content all in the name of "engagement".

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#50

> the main thing that we've done is we've commissioned additional research on this because I've not been happy with the evidence. Ah, yes, the existing research doesn't agree with our biases, so let's fund new "research" that does.

Obviously Labour has been "lobbied" and now have to deliver this for whoever wants this. It's pathetic how they use sobbing families to push it through, similar tactic like before Iraq invasion. same players behind the scenes.

Conspiracy theory^

This is happening worldwide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_age_verification_laws_b...

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