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Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by 9dev »

ptmcc wrote: post #441
9dev wrote: post #383

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why do you consider yourself an introvert if you enjoy chatting with everyone and everything?

Introvert doesn't mean one doesn't enjoy socializing, just that one needs quiet down time to recharge from it. Extroverts tend to be energized by socialization. It's also not always so cleanly binary, either. I really hate that introversion gets conflated with social anxiety or misanthropy on the internet.

well, and I dislike that people feel the need to desperately label themselves with some affliction. At some point you're just pretty close to the center of the bell curve.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by andrepd »

retired wrote: post #679
andrepd wrote: post #561

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Eh I don't think so. Commutes are as clean and peaceful as they can be in the Netherlands or Switzerland and people are no less buried in their phones with noise-cancelling earbuds on.

The Netherlands has plenty of crazies using public transport. Every other window on the train has the emergency number on it for a reason. I refuse to travel in second class, hate being close to people that blast music, use drugs, puke or eat a broodje pindakaas. The Netherlands even has segregated busses for asylum seekers because there was too much violence. Dutch people have their own busses and asylum seekers are…

You make it sound like it's an absolute warzone (your demographic certainly likes to push that narrative even in the most uneventful of places!). Yes I've taken trains back home from nights out at 4:30 in the morning where there were drunk girls talking loudly and (gasp!) trash on the floor. There's certainly no-one "blasting loud music" in the average train and definitely not "doing drugs".

Ofc there's a non-zero number of crazies, violent people, sexual harassers, etc. That's a certainty in a system with 400 million trips a year! But then please don't leave your home, there can be an ax murderer lying in wait at any corner!

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by lostlogin »

m12k wrote: post #524
seizethecheese wrote: post #454

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Funny how new technology is unnatural but old technology, (that existed before we were born, like cars, streets, subways) are “natural”.

Douglas Adams summed it up eloquently: “I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies: 1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented af…

I’d like a special exemption for social media, with it being in category 3 always.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by lostlogin »

carlosjobim wrote: post #396
Neywiny wrote: post #216

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When I got my (admittedly car) license they made it clear that's illegal. Hasn't stopped people from doing it but yeah don't. Maybe get a quieter exhaust

You're revealing that you have never rode a motorbike with your comment. Riders need to use ear protection within the helmet unless they want to become deaf in the future, because of the wind noise.

It can be bad on a bicycle too, especially if wearing AirPods (in transparency mode).

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by cetarylic2 »

This struck a chord with me because when our 9mth old was born, I leant heavily on airpods during night feeds and still do wear them when it's just me and her hanging out; we interact constantly and chat away but I always have them in.

I also wear them listening to podcasts doing chores in the evening while my wife is on the couch; whenever she says something I have to ask her to repeat herself and its just not nice.

I also agree with the lack of idle thought; my brain is constantly tied into some content stream.

I need to be more deliberate - maybe I'll only use them for work (I work from home so use the for meetings and to hear notifications when away from my desk) and when running.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by lostlogin »

t-3 wrote: post #240
ginko wrote: post #209

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Being able to hear your surroundings on a motorcycle or bicycle seems very important for safety to me. Filtering that out feels dangerous.

On a pedal bike, it's very important because you are most likely to be hit by cars from behind. Motorcycles move much faster, and most riders wear helmets as well, already impacting hearing. The road noise and wind is very loud, try rolling down the window in a car on the freeway and imagine that on .your whole body.

> On a pedal bike, it's very important because you are most likely to be hit by cars from behind.

If anyone hasn’t tried a bike radar, they are a massive help. Eg Garmin Varia. Take care with the new model, the light is insane, on 5% you have the eye of Sauron blinding the rider behind you.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by lostlogin »

culi wrote: post #557
SauntSolaire wrote: post #550

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Is this sarcasm?

Not at all. As far as trade goes, we have birds of paradise in New Mexico, 320k year old obsidian tools and color pigments found in Kenya that came from hundreds of miles away. We know trading across thousands of miles has been happening for hundreds of thousands of years. As for large celebrations, ceremonies, or just parties—well it seems silly for me to even spend time citing specific evidence. Of course this has…

> 320k year old obsidian tools and color pigments found in Kenya that came from hundreds of miles away.

Might have been contactless drop off.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by snovv_crash »

hnav wrote: post #682
snovv_crash wrote: post #666

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Do you also think we should get rid of sealed sewers and keeping the roads intact in order to bring down property prices? Maybe this is a sign of deeper structural issues and we shouldn't regress as a civilization but rather fix what the actual problems are.

I’m not saying that we need to regress further as a society. I was merely providing a counterpoint to the argument that the homeless need to have their agency stripped because they’re a negative value to “productive” society.

Their negative value isn't to productivity, but to your personal safety and quality of life, and frankly their safety and quality of life too. Accepting that people who cannot look after themselves need to be looked after by the community rather than left outside to die, I personally feel, should not be a controversial position.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by wiether »

mrinterweb wrote: post #660
wiether wrote: post #601

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Keep in mind that some AirPods are now certified hearing aids. So before calling someone rude for talking to you with their AirPods on, make sure they don't need them on to hear you in the first place. I myself always put at least one down when talking to someone, but I've learned to make the distinction between someone that is actually involved in the discussion, and someone that's still listening to what's coming f…

I don't call people rude for doing it. Maybe I should. I consider it rude. Maybe I should inquire if the earbuds are for hearing assistance then mention they are rude if they say no. Not really my style, but at least it would be direct. I don't know what percentage of earbud users depend on the earbuds for hearing assistance, but I would wager it is a small percent of the total of people who use earbuds. I doubt that…

There's at least one person in this situation in the comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48599384

I suspect the numbers will grow given how much cheaper they are compared to the standard medical devices.

My point was: I understand where you're coming from, I used to feel the same, but a shift is in the making, and you could consider someone's attitude rude when they are actually impaired.

So starting from: "this person is wearing AirPods as hearing aids" to realize that they're just being rude, is probably better than starting from "they're being rude for wearing AirPods" only to realize you've made a mistake.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by al_borland »

SenHeng wrote: post #443
yonaguska wrote: post #322

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Since the advent of EVs, its not a safety issue imo. When Tesla's first came out, and the first adopters were all people that wanted to drive FAST, I was often surprised by them, especially since I always rode slightly faster than traffic as a safety mitigation technique. I quickly learned to use my eyes more. My eyes are my ears and you cannot rely on sound to know who or what might be coming up from behind you. Mir…

It’s been a thing since the Prius allowed driving with the engine off with parents complaining that the Prius is a silent killer of kids because they couldn’t hear them coming.

Now, with the noises EVs have to make below a certain speed, they are louder than ICE cars. One person on my street has an electric Chevy, maybe a Cadillac, and it’s the only vehicle I can always hear from inside the house. It’s drives me insane.

I hoped electric cars would make for quieter cities, but instead they seem to make them worse, imo. All due to this noise making requirement. Then, at higher speeds, tire noise overtakes engine noise at a certain point, so the drivetrain becomes a moot point.

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