Probably an unpopular view, but why not fix the issues with social media.
The UK's new under-16 social media ban will cause more harm than it prevents
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Re: The UK's new under-16 social media ban will cause more harm than it prevents
#82Probably an unpopular view, but why not fix the issues with social media.
This is the best thing to do IMO
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#83“ But the social media ban does not stop there. The provision also requires internet service providers to limit the time kids spend online, and has rules about who can contact them online. These extreme rules will take decisions about using technology away from families and put them in the hands of government regulators. “
I’m not sure that “there are rules on who can contact children online” is “extreme” for anyone outside of hyper libertarian circles.
The EFF needs to start engaging with actual real world, because it’s intransigence on the issues being caused by unfettered internet usage mean it is unable to prevent bad solutions being proposed.
Re: The UK's new under-16 social media ban will cause more harm than it prevents
#84Probably an unpopular view, but why not fix the issues with social media.
I really wish we could just pass "common sense" laws. Like, you just can't use addiction to make money, full stop. You can't use any kind of trickery in marketing, in particular anything trying to circumvent people's rational brain and preying on the weak animal brain underneath. Marketing and advertising would be gone overnight - good riddance -because anyone can write an honest advert.
The problem with us is we get stuck in local optima and we just can't get out. We're like ants in a death spiral. It takes some enormous external shock to get us out, like a world war. Even a financial crisis or global pandemic isn't enough any more, unfortunately. Individuals just can't accept less and no leaders appear to be able or willing to explain to the concepts of global optimisation or long term plans etc. So we get stuck with shit on top of more shit.
Re: The UK's new under-16 social media ban will cause more harm than it prevents
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody needs to use social media though. Really they should just torch the lot.
you don't use YouTube?
The world was fine before youtube, it's not the end of the world. It's full of fake education who won't take responsibility by claiming they're "just entertainment".
Realistically, the kids will find their way around the ban.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who is "government" Is it not the people? The people don't want this crap. It's a few zealots with their motives that are pushing this down society.
I want it. As someone who’s trying to keep their kids off screens and social media it’s easier to win the battle when it’s illegal. If I have to provide ID I’ll probably stop using it to and that’s good. Shit is garbage. Hopefully this becomes a global thing and we might get classic internet back, when it was actually good, before social media…
The kids will just use illegal plattforms instead, which will not even try to stay above board or protect children.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is some okay stuff on YouTube. There is nothing stopping people reposting stuff on platforms without social media elements and with proper curation and publisher responsibilities. Most big YouTubers would love this to happen I’m sure.
This will be a controversial statement here, but for better or worse, Youtube is a modern Library of Alexandria. It archives a significant amount of human knowledge and culture in video form, and for a lot of it, there is no backup. Big, popular channels do push their viewers to alternative platforms like Patreon because of Youtube's censorship guidelines and arbitrary demonetization, but a lot of valuable content is…
YouTube is very mixed.
Putting short form content on it was a mistake.
It’s only not trash if you use it correctly.
Watch some videos by some racists, you get fed videos making you racist.
It has all the negatives of social media.
Ideal the UK would just make platforms responsible as publishers.
This is the dividing line which should apply for under 18s.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody needs to use social media though. Really they should just torch the lot.
you don't use YouTube?
I use YouTube, but only watch stuff I SEARCH for or from people I have subscribed to. No watch next BS.
If you have self control you can avoid the social media element of it.
YouTube demonetisation tends to act as a reasonable steward on the platform, but it does need to be strengthened.
I.e. make YouTube responsible as the publisher for any video with over 100k views. This would be totally doable.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who is "government" Is it not the people? The people don't want this crap. It's a few zealots with their motives that are pushing this down society.
The people do want this crap. If you have kids of a certain age, you know kids that have had near misses with grooming on Roblox, or have seen the comments from men on child Tiktok accounts. It's a stupid amount of exposure that we just didn't have to deal with as kids. People just don't understand the problems implementing AVS. I'd be much much happier submitting details or a face scan to a .gov.uk service than all…
Then do your parenting and stop limiting the rights of the rest.
Re: The UK's new under-16 social media ban will cause more harm than it prevents
#90“ But the social media ban does not stop there. The provision also requires internet service providers to limit the time kids spend online, and has rules about who can contact them online. These extreme rules will take decisions about using technology away from families and put them in the hands of government regulators. “ I’m not sure that “there are rules on who can contact children online” is “extreme” for anyone…
Or you maybe need to start properly educating your children by limiting your own devices instead of harming the whole net sphere.
Call your ISP and set restricted DNS' and ban any instalation of software on children's devices. Problem solved.