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Spotify killed the thrill of the hunt

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Re: Spotify killed the thrill of the hunt

#33
When Spotify came online I tried it and it immediately killed the fun around music. Less about the actual music, more about building out playlists. This was all for casual listening. The good stuff was at the clubs anyway.

Re: Spotify killed the thrill of the hunt

#34
> You can go on YouTube right now, search for any niche genre, and instantly access thousands of artists. And while that’s undeniably convenient, I do think it cheapens the experience.

I feel the opposite. Finding gems in all the trash and bland music streaming services have on offer does give the trill of the hunt. How is it better to send a money order and spend your time "just waiting" when you could be spending that time digging past whatever streaming services push at you and diving deeper.

Search for a genre on youtube and you get a bunch of artists. Search for those artists, find their channels, and check out the songs youtube's algorithm doesn't surface. You can still use recommendation services and websites outside of youtube and streaming services to get leads on good stuff to try. It's a whole lot more exciting than throwing cash into the void and hoping something good comes back at you.

I also don't understand the "you can't find anything that everyone else doesn't already know about" stuff. I love comparing playlists with friends and family because the massive amount of available music means that they always have music from artists that I've never even heard of before. If everyone knows about every song you're finding you aren't looking very hard. I don't really care much about being the first person to learn about a cool song or artist, but even on youtube I find good songs with very low view counts all the time. It doesn't make me feel special though. I kind of think it's frustrating and just think "Why don't more people know about this! This deserves more attention!"

Re: Spotify killed the thrill of the hunt

#35
I remember, when I was younger, printing out MapQuest bike instructions, following them, and getting lost trying to find the next street -- and then feeling incredible when I finally found it. When GPS became so commonplace you could use it on any phone, I realized that the feeling of suddenly realizing where you were was gone forever. Of course you can only feel euphoric about finding a street if you felt at least equally despondent that you couldn't find it, so it's probably a worthwhile tradeoff. I feel somewhat similarly about Spotify. Yes, some things are lost, but you can't honestly tell me you think it was better before, right?

Re: Spotify killed the thrill of the hunt

#36

> Now, it’s completely different. The moment some obscure demo drops, it’s everywhere, Bandcamp, Spotify, Apple Music, Instagram, whatever. Everyone knows about it instantly. That sense of discovery, of finding a truly underground gem, just isn’t the same anymore. It’s too easy now. I don't agree. I want to be clear that I think youtube is terrible in many, many ways, but one thing I _do_ love about youtube is music…

Right. The fact that some good stuff is everywhere because of social media campaigns, doesn’t mean all the good stuff is everywhere.

But, for many the base level of content recommended is good enough and so they are not forced to hunt. So the marginal win from hunting is less.

I do feel there is one way in which the claim is true - effectively unlimited bandwidth means that social networks like Soulseek just don’t hit the way they used to. One could download 100 flac albums speculatively from a seeder that has a good collection these days, instead of having to wait around (and have a reason to chat) to download the best one you can find.

Re: Spotify killed the thrill of the hunt

#37

> Now, it’s completely different. The moment some obscure demo drops, it’s everywhere, Bandcamp, Spotify, Apple Music, Instagram, whatever. Everyone knows about it instantly. That sense of discovery, of finding a truly underground gem, just isn’t the same anymore. It’s too easy now. I don't agree. I want to be clear that I think youtube is terrible in many, many ways, but one thing I _do_ love about youtube is music…

It's also just not true.

At least in techno and rap, there are multitudes of good music, from both very popular and underground artists, which are missing from Spotify and can only be found sometimes on YouTube, or on Spotify under hidden names (uploaded by non copyright holders), or via underground sharing networks. And I'm not only talking about leaks.

Re: Spotify killed the thrill of the hunt

#38
I will never understand this kind of sentiment:

> You had to dig. You had to seek out small, specialized record stores or spend time on shady forums. You’d track down obscure distros just to order releases you couldn’t get any other way... Now, it’s completely different... That sense of discovery, of finding a truly underground gem, just isn’t the same anymore. It’s too easy now.

To the contrary, I can now spend months digging into obscure African 70's music that there was just no realistic way for me to access before.

There are 10,000x more obscure gems to find, across the world and across the decades.

You can define your taste in far more granular ways than you ever were able to before, follow the paths of so many more artists, and even put out your own music with infinitely less friction than before.

The author is missing the forest for just this one tree.

Re: Spotify killed the thrill of the hunt

#40

So don't use Spotify. Go to a record store. Hardly needs a blog post.

I was thinking the same thing. Seems unpopular opinion but in way, it’s the world we built.

Video stores vanished and everyone bought Netflix. Record stores disappear and everyone left for YouTube. Complaining now is a little late, perhaps boycotting those services would have been better.

But these services are so convenient like amazon … why is my corner store now disappearing? Progress and everyone seems to want it.

You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

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