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Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by ssl-3 »

cyberpunk wrote: post #519
alberth wrote: post #96

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Happened 4-years ago. I still notice it every night at bed. Or anytime it’s quiet. I try not to think about it, because I feel like it gets amplified when I do. But it’s daily for the last 4-years :( Hope you’re ok now. Please see someone if you’re not.

Did you happen to get covid or had a really heavy reaction to a inoculation around that time? That's what triggered mine; but it's actually been getting a lot better and (pure anecdotal) but I think 6 months or so of a b complex vitamin pill in the mornings have helped. Apparently, it can promote nerve repair, there's absolutely no money in studying this effect however so research is scant. I think you have very litt…

I've had some tinnitus for very long time (decades) -- usually, it was quiet enough to ignore and sometimes it seemed like it disappeared completely. It got way worse near the beginning of 2020. It became bad enough to hear all of the time. Even a rock concert doesn't really drown it out (yeah, I tend to wear earplugs for those -- but not quite at 100%).

Also near the beginning of 2020: I was sick AF for over a month with respiratory problems and fever and intense feelings of being unwell in ways I didn't know a person could experience. (Covid? Maybe. No way to tell, as far as I know. All I know is that I was in bad shape for a long time, that it came on very quickly, and that I tested negative for flu.)

Anyway, which b complex vitamin pills might you suggest? I'm game to try just about any low-impact way to turn down the noise.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by optimalsolver »

mock-possum wrote: post #482
WalterBright wrote: post #474

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Unwelcome attention is unwelcome attention. The only charitable exceptions might be children and adults with developmental disabilities, who allowably don’t know any better.

>adults with developmental disabilities, who allowably don’t know any better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb9dV_DP5NI

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by [deleted] »

multjoy wrote: post #545
GJim wrote: post #220

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Stupidly dangerous and (in my country) illegal. Please retract your comment and don't encourage such stupidity. EDIT: Since this is being misinterpreted... Earplugs that deaden sound are fine and encouraged on a motorbike, playing music in your ears is what masks other sound and is both stupid and illegal.

No it isn't. Presumably you're trying to ban radios in cars as well?

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Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by bscphil »

goodmythical wrote: post #501
wvenable wrote: post #487

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> I can sleep, eat, shower, and meditate just as well in the middle of a deadly riot ... as I can in a forest or a dead silent bed room. You should realize that there are people who can't do that.

There was a point in my life that I couldn't do that. To suggest that it is impossible for a given individual is different from suggesting that it is difficult which is different still from suggesting that it is suggested. I have personally benefitted massively from deconstructing the walls that my parents and peers suggested I build as a child. It was work to do, and is work yet to be done, but I value it. I am no l…

Surely the solution to this social problem, however, can't be "everyone should simply convert to my religion / achieve a higher state of mind where they're not bothered by any form of inconvenience, irritation, or interruption." If it comes to that, most people will continue to wear their AirPods. It's a non-answer.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by MarkusQ »

wvenable wrote: post #497
exmadscientist wrote: post #494

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Being able to do it in the middle of a riot is, absolutely, a hard-earned skill. But it is, like so many of these things, a skill. You have to practice it. I think that putting earbuds in and checking out of the world around you is a really awful thing to do as your default in life. As a "sometimes" thing it's fine, even healthy. There's a lot of talk of public transit in this thread. If people do it during riding tr…

My son, for example, has sensory issues and cannot tune out anything. The "you have to practice it" is like telling a paraplegic that if they just exercise more they'd be able to walk. People are different and have different needs. > And I think that's really, really unhealthy, for them and for the rest of us. Or maybe it's not. Maybe the rest of the world is unhealthy and this is a way to reclaim some personal healt…

"When we argue for our limitations, we get to keep them."

-- Evelyn Waugh

Paraplegics don't have the use of their limbs. Acting as if "sensory issues" are in the same category is grossly insensitive.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by chistev »

wiseowise wrote: post #516
chistev wrote: post #231

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> I’m a long distance runner and often run 15-20+ miles without music or headphones. It’s nice https://youtube.com/shorts/aqWDyakwRg8?si=LZddNysBymNXLgZI

Jesus H. Christ, what a terrible day to have ears and eyes. Who even consumes this “content”?

People who you think you're better than.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by culi »

SauntSolaire wrote: post #550
culi wrote: post #512

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Humans have always crowded in busy markets, gone to large and loud parties, etc.

Is this sarcasm?

Not at all.

As far as trade goes, we have birds of paradise in New Mexico, 320k year old obsidian tools and color pigments found in Kenya that came from hundreds of miles away. We know trading across thousands of miles has been happening for hundreds of thousands of years.

As for large celebrations, ceremonies, or just parties—well it seems silly for me to even spend time citing specific evidence. Of course this has been happening for hundreds of thousands of years as well

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by wvenable »

MarkusQ wrote: post #555
wvenable wrote: post #497

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My son, for example, has sensory issues and cannot tune out anything. The "you have to practice it" is like telling a paraplegic that if they just exercise more they'd be able to walk. People are different and have different needs. > And I think that's really, really unhealthy, for them and for the rest of us. Or maybe it's not. Maybe the rest of the world is unhealthy and this is a way to reclaim some personal healt…

"When we argue for our limitations, we get to keep them." -- Evelyn Waugh Paraplegics don't have the use of their limbs. Acting as if "sensory issues" are in the same category is grossly insensitive.

Suggesting you can just practice your way out of biological sensory issues is also grossly insensitive; that's why I made that comparison.

Stating that using this kind of technology is "unhealthy" both for a person and society is a pretty bold claim that I think is pretty ridiculous.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by angiolillo »

Different public spaces have wildly different expectations with regard to social interaction.

Most people know better than to strike up a conversation with a stranger who is watching a theater performance, reading in a library, or walking briskly to work. Whereas chatting with people at a club, sporting event, carnival, conference, convention, etc is socially acceptable.

But many places are ambiguous like public transit, gyms, shops, airplanes, etc. Assessing whether someone in those contexts would welcome interaction with strangers requires social awareness.

Unfortunately, some people overlook or deliberately ignore these cues, so folks who aren't interested in social interaction have taken to wearing headphones in those contexts to make it as obvious as possible. If you're the kind of person who is surprised by how many people are now wearing headphones, it may be because you were missing their more subtle cues before.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by milesskorpen »

oceanplexian wrote: post #539

Yeah, great article. But it should get to the point. The reason you need to physically remove yourself is because of the insane lunatics that blast trash music and do a dance while aggressively panhandling or screaming at you for trying to commute quitely on the train to work. A hallmark of daily life when I worked in SF and in NYC. A great way to fix the fake problem would be to aggressively enforce the existing law…

While that does happen occasionally in SF, it's <5% of my commutes.
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