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Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by fundad »

basisword wrote: post #54
fundad wrote: post #27

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Agreed. These people seem to be panicking that our precious society is suffering because of choices people are making for themselves when that’s just what society is. If they benefit from talking to more people, go ahead and enjoy the benefits. They aren’t owed anything. I’ll talk to strangers when it makes me feel good. But most of the time I try avoid inviting weirdos to complain about minorities or marginalized pe…

>> I try avoid inviting weirdos to complain about minorities or marginalized people from someone who has driven away anyone close to them. I would suggest that it's your avoidance of talking to strangers that makes you think this is how a lot of them think. And it kind of proves the point that society can suffer because of it. If you went out tomorrow and talked to 100 random strangers for 10mins I'd be surprised if…

I said in my post that I DO talk to strangers. It makes me feel good when that’s what I want. It’s also true that most of y’all are sus AF.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by tptacek »

wenc wrote: post #85
tptacek wrote: post #5

I don't remember any time in my life where it ever felt normal to me to randomly talk to strangers. I went to London when I was a teenager and was made uncomfortable by how chatty the cab drivers were. Later, I worked at a startup and my boss was preternaturally gifted at chatting up strangers, which he did habitually in every setting we were in when we traveled; on the plane, on the bus from the airport, &c. I remem…

As someone from Chicago (actual Chicago, south side, not the suburbs), randomly talking to strangers is what we do. We're talking to strangers at the bus stop, at the grocery check out, or just wherever. It's just phatic conversation, nothing needs to come of it. Chicagoans aren't just friendly, they actually love the art of the conversation -- every conversation is a chance to put in the reps. But the minute you ste…

I grew up on the south side and lived for years in Lakeview; we moved back from Ann Arbor to Oak Park, much later, the only time I've lived "in the suburbs", and Oak Park is more urban than Beverly or Jeff Park are. And then, of course, even after we moved to Oak Park, I still worked in the city every day.

No, this doesn't track my experience of Chicago at all.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by fundad »

anon-3988 wrote: post #83
fundad wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. These people seem to be panicking that our precious society is suffering because of choices people are making for themselves when that’s just what society is. If they benefit from talking to more people, go ahead and enjoy the benefits. They aren’t owed anything. I’ll talk to strangers when it makes me feel good. But most of the time I try avoid inviting weirdos to complain about minorities or marginalized pe…

> Agreed. These people seem to be panicking that our precious society is suffering because of choices people are making for themselves when that’s just what society is. If they benefit from talking to more people, go ahead and enjoy the benefits. They aren’t owed anything. I hope you don't complain when people use social media or have LLM as their daddy to cope then :)

Yes that’s my definition of freedom.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by brokenmachine »

HDBaseT wrote: post #86
walrus01 wrote: post #82

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Tell me you're an American that lives in a 100% car dependent community without coming right out and saying it. Say no more, we get it.

Australia.

Australian public transport is pretty good in my experience. I certainly don't expect to be stabbed or sit in piss.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by dingaling »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #102
ryukoposting wrote: post #11

I didn't realize that research on this topic was so sparse, I just took it as a fact that people wearing airpods don't socialize in public. When I was in college, the line "he can't hear you, he has airpods in" was a meme. It was used as a jab at someone who wasn't paying attention because they had wireless earbuds in. So I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.

I have a hard time understanding someone so oblivious as to need telling not to try talking to someone with earbuds in. You can see them. Don’t talk to me. If you must , get my attention first with a wave or something - don’t touch me.

Do you apply this rule in reverse? If you need to speak to someone who isn't wearing earphones, do you wave at them first or do you just start talking to them?

I suspect the latter.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by sublinear »

If you want that warmth, you have to invite it in. It has nothing to do with the airpods.

Do you ever sit somewhere in public fully relaxed without a care in the world? Do you ever poke your head up to see who else is looking at what you're looking at? Is your expression neutral or natural?

There's always someone nearby doing the same. What happens when you spot them? Don't overthink it.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by danaris »

alberth wrote: post #98
teruakohatu wrote: post #72

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> I swear my tinnitus is a result of use of AirPods. Have you had your hearing checked out by an audiologist? Any hearing loss? Hearing loss (age) and damage (loud noise) are the most likely culprits.

Yes. Checked out twice. No hearing loss at all. My hearing is actually better than age appropriate, so the doctors say I’ll just have to live with it because they can’t detect it.

You should look into notch therapy apps—I have some very mild tinnitus that flared up into moderate tinnitus for a couple of months last year, so I was looking for options and found that there were some that looked promising.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by xquce »

exmadscientist wrote: post #45
tptacek wrote: post #5

I don't remember any time in my life where it ever felt normal to me to randomly talk to strangers. I went to London when I was a teenager and was made uncomfortable by how chatty the cab drivers were. Later, I worked at a startup and my boss was preternaturally gifted at chatting up strangers, which he did habitually in every setting we were in when we traveled; on the plane, on the bus from the airport, &c. I remem…

Talking to strangers is a skill. You can practice it! I've made a point of trying to practice, albeit halfheartedly, and even though it's difficult for me, because I like it when other people try to talk to me . Earbuds stop this practice dead in its tracks. You can't deny that.

Agree with the first part, very important! Not the second, however.

I joined my local fitness gym some months ago and use it to connect to people in the small town I moved to. Almost every time I'm there I manage to chat to someone briefly, and 50% of them have earpods in. Most of them now look up and greet me when we pass and multiple have up to me on other days to chat afterwards.

It's a skill and part of that skill is being able to give people an out of the chat if they don't feel for it, not interrupting at a bad time (mid set in a gym setting). My starter is usually a quick question with a "thank you so much, I'm new here" and if they reach for earpods to put back as they say you welcome, perfect you don't keep going. For the ones who want to chat keep them off and respond or ask something in return.

So headphones/earpods can be a barrier but for me it's a useful barrier and a clear signal, which helps both parties.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by danaris »

InitialBP wrote: post #42
chihuahua wrote: post #15

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There's a pretty big difference between AirPods and AirPods Pro. The former just sort of loosely sit in the outer part of your ear. The latter form a pretty good seal in your ear canal. That's how you get good noise cancelling with Airpods Pro. The loose fit of the regular AirPods and the wired EarPods never made any sense to me.

This is actually the exact opposite for me. Rubber tipped buds will not stay put in my ears when I move around, while the original airpods models sit within my ears and don't fall out unless I'm doing cartwheels.

The AirPods Pro do come with buds in a few different sizes—have you had the opportunity to try both the small and the large types?

I've also heard that the most recent AirPods Pro fit much better for people who have had problems in the past—I think because their rubber buds also have some foam in them, to help them create a better seal.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by number6 »

try_the_bass wrote: post #94

The thought of intentionally deafening myself to the outside world, even partially, is unnerving, because I can't stand the thought of nerfing my own situational awareness to that degree. Especially in fast-paced environments, like city streets, where sounds can carry such important signal. Even watching someone else walk around a city with headphones/earbuds in is something that makes me uncomfortable by proxy. It's…

They have a situational awarenes mode
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