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I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Post by treis »

solid_fuel wrote: post #22
engeljohnb wrote: post #17

I'm glad it all worked out for this individual. I hope more people live their lives like this as the dystopia progresses. Unfortunately, especially in the US, exercising your rights, or even just reading every paper you're expected to put your name to, not only constantly pisses people off for some reason, but also puts you at a significant disadvantage compared to the people that never push back in the interest of n…

> Unfortunately, especially in the US, exercising your rights, or even just reading every paper you're expected to put your name to, not only constantly pisses people off for some reason Yup. It's particularly sad seeing other people in this very thread talking about how they would "ban this customer for life" just for knowing their rights. I think it's pathetic that this has become the culture amongst large swathes…

I don't know that signing up for a rewards club and then complaining that you're being marketed to is quite the platonic ideal of rebellion you make it out to be.

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Post by plagiarist »

deepsun wrote: post #28
engeljohnb wrote: post #17

I'm glad it all worked out for this individual. I hope more people live their lives like this as the dystopia progresses. Unfortunately, especially in the US, exercising your rights, or even just reading every paper you're expected to put your name to, not only constantly pisses people off for some reason, but also puts you at a significant disadvantage compared to the people that never push back in the interest of n…

Once I rented an apartment in US, and the documents said that they can make videos, pictures and audio recordings of me and my family, and use it for their own purposes including commercial. I objected, but their position was that no one is going to involve legal department for me, and I am free to go away.

I found some shit like that in a gym contract, which I then declined.

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Post by wredcoll »

jazz9k wrote: post #48

I'm so glad the GDPR never took hold in the US. Little Karens getting companies fined millions of dollars over what amounts to nothing. You can always not use their service. Plenty of alternatives out there.

How depressingly unamerican.

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Post by Insimwytim »

There's also issue with EU companies forcing candidates to agree to their anti-privacy policies (confusingly named "privacy policies") as a requirement before the job interview.

Those anti-privacy policies will state, that you grant the company and third-parties (so, anyone) permissions to use your data (including voice and image) for any purpose. (Of course, it is stated in a slightly obscure fashion, so a layman may not comprehend it.)

I wonder if there has been any similar action taken against those.

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Post by TurdF3rguson »

dataflow wrote: post #36
tux1968 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like in Finland where speeding ticket fines are based on your income. For instance, in one well known case a businessman was fined €121,000 for going 82 km/h in a 50 km/h zone.

And before anyone calls this crazy, note that jail time costs you your time, whatever that's worth. This is the same idea without the physical incarceration.

Most rich people still make money when they're in jail. Only people who work for a living stop making money.

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Post by buzer »

Insimwytim wrote: post #74

There's also issue with EU companies forcing candidates to agree to their anti-privacy policies (confusingly named "privacy policies") as a requirement before the job interview. Those anti-privacy policies will state, that you grant the company and third-parties (so, anyone) permissions to use your data (including voice and image) for any purpose. (Of course, it is stated in a slightly obscure fashion, so a layman ma…

I haven't personally encountered that, but you are free to lodge complaint with your local DPA about it.

That exact language is unlikely to be compliant. If you want to maximize your effect you could make Article 15 request to the company in question, get the list of actual recipients of data (make sure to be ask for this specifically) and then make another request to all of those companies. That will then allow you to possibly make further complaints (e.g. why exactly they didn't send Article 14 information to you, are the legal basis they use actually proper in your case especially if the original one was consent and it was not freely given).

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Post by TurdF3rguson »

echoangle wrote: post #10

Good to know that this is illegal. One of my email providers also does this, maybe I’ll also have to try reporting them and see what happens.

EU only though. You can get away with pretty much anything outside of EU.

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Post by abawany »

deepsun wrote: post #28
engeljohnb wrote: post #17

I'm glad it all worked out for this individual. I hope more people live their lives like this as the dystopia progresses. Unfortunately, especially in the US, exercising your rights, or even just reading every paper you're expected to put your name to, not only constantly pisses people off for some reason, but also puts you at a significant disadvantage compared to the people that never push back in the interest of n…

Once I rented an apartment in US, and the documents said that they can make videos, pictures and audio recordings of me and my family, and use it for their own purposes including commercial. I objected, but their position was that no one is going to involve legal department for me, and I am free to go away.

I've also read reviews of Greystar properties where the reviewers expressed shock at being forced to consent to such abuse.
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