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Notes from tired Egyptian whose job is explaining that humans built the pyramids

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Re: Notes from tired Egyptian whose job is explaining that humans built the pyramids

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My father in law has email address that is about his small dog. He's Scottish and his dog growls a lot. So his address is weegrrrr. Oh let me tell you the fun of spelling that one over the phone. He's also not the most patient man in the world either :-)

Tell him to be careful. The chinese government might try to re-educate his email address.

How so?

Re: Notes from tired Egyptian whose job is explaining that humans built the pyramids

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There's a ton of people that, for some reason, just can't grok that humans have been largely behaviorally and biologically identical for the past 200k years. The average ancient roman plebeian's life would not look dramatically different from ours today, minus technology of course. They worked a day job, ate at thermopoliums (basically fast food), lived in crowded apartment complexes with various forms of slum lords,…

There are ideas that ancient human thinking was very different and primitive compared to modern. For example (and others): The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes (1976)

probably this is an effect of a much more simple environment and tasks in the past: Sleep, hunt and not been hunted, eat, reproduce. the minds seems simpler, but is apparent.

We live in a more complex world, this produce someting more complex, culture, ideas, knowledge, tasks, technology, craps.. but basic intelligence i think is the same (if not better in the past, less "pollution")

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> This feels deeply insulting considering humans also created taxation, organized warfare, and raisins. Offtopic, but why do people hate raisins so much? No other dried fruit gets so much hate. I would imagine it's something genetic like the reason why some people dislike coriander (which has been shown to be related to genetic sensitivity to aldehydes).

The only other dried fruit I see people eat regularly is cranberries, and those really can’t be eaten fresh. I think it’s just that most people don’t like dried fruit and this is their only exposure. It’s definitely one of the most sickeningly sweet natural things you can eat that isn’t a sweetener in and of itself.

Excuse me, fresh cranberries are delicious!

Re: Notes from tired Egyptian whose job is explaining that humans built the pyramids

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Tell him to be careful. The chinese government might try to re-educate his email address.

How so?

Took me a while admittedly (probably a "me problem") but it's a word play of "Uyghur".

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Tell him to be careful. The chinese government might try to re-educate his email address.

How so?

The Chinese government has been rounding up Uyghurs (pronounced like we-gir) to reeducate them. And the government really does not like it when people talk about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin...

Re: Notes from tired Egyptian whose job is explaining that humans built the pyramids

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I think the more likely explanation is racism. If the pyramids were in Europe, nobody would challenge their human origin but pyramids are in Africa Surely aliens are involved.

This is such a weirdly misanthropic view of humanity. Why are people so desperate to find evil in this world when ignorance is not only nicer to believe, it’s insanely more accurate? Like I get it, you’re depressed, but this doesn’t automatically make everyone everywhere that doesn’t believe some random facts “racist”.

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"I personally can't conceive of how one might built this, and I must be a million times smarter than people 4500 years ago, ergo people didn't build this." is how the Ancient Aliens theory always sounds to me.

This is a strawman argument, their real one is: "These megalithic structures would be tremendously difficult for anyone to build even today with all of our modern technology, and yet they did it hundreds of times before even inventing the wheel, in several places across the world."

Yeah, they probably didn't have to file for environmental review and eminent domain.

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That one is an interesting scifi premise, but deeply unpersuasive when it comes to actual humans.

It was one of the main influences for the cyberpunk Snow Crash novel.

And an even bigger influence in Stephenson's first book, The Big U.

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> It means knowledge, systems, expertise, and institutional capability can fade over time This has also been happening since ancient times. Famously, how to make roman concrete was lost after the fall of the empire and Europe did not reinvent high quality concrete until much later in the 18th century. They also lost entire industrial-scale manufacturing pipelines for pottery and had a regression back to crude, hand-s…

This reminds me of Gall’s Law. You cannot create a complex system, you must create a simple system and improve it over time. The issue arises when you get so many iterations in, you’ve forgotten the process. Any catastrophic event can mean you won’t be able to create the silicon chip or airplanes and so much other technology. Maybe I’m wrong and people and books do exist that can explain the process and human might w…

A semiconductor company couldn't get their second plant to work until they tore it down and set it up again in an exact copy of the floor layout of the first plant. They don't know why.

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Ancient Aliens conflates two very different ideas. The show’s core argument is that ancient civilizations were more advanced than we give them credit for. That may be true, but “more advanced” does not mean they had superior technology or help from aliens. It can simply mean they had technical knowledge, methods, or craftsmanship that we have since lost or forgotten. Elon Musk has made a similar point about the US sp…

Have we actually forgotten how to land to the moon? That sounds very fishy, I’m pretty skeptical that’s not the case, that was done at a time where we had good records and still have access to them. And it’s close enough to current time that people who worked on it are still alive (not all of course). Coming from musk makes me believe that’s not true, he’s far from a reliable narrator

In the same way we've forgotten how to write Windows 1.0 programs. Sure, we can work it out again - specially with modern reverse engineering tools. But that's the point - we'd have to work it out again.
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