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Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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The cost is just insane though. $4-$500 for a camera that I can get equivalent specs for $50-100.

With face detection? License plates? Tamper protection? I'm guessing you're thinking Reolink or other Chinese ultra-commodity cam. It's fine, it's just in a different product class and ecosystem - and that's where enterprises fit in, they want that support+ecosystem and not DIYing. Reolink CX820 8MP $129 https://reolink.com/product/cx820/ Unifi G6 8MP ~$300 https://techspecs.ui.com/unifi/physical-security/uvc-g6-dome…

I have rather a lot of Reolinks ... and Frigate on Home Assistant. The cameras are on a VLAN with rather minimal internet access (ie none) I make pool.ntp.org etc resolve to my own NTP servers too.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Ubiquiti's biggest feature is no monthly recurring cost. I really hope they continue the streak on products like this. Seems like anything else bought up these days is switched to an MRR model with no vision into the long term viability.

*yet They will at some point just cash out.

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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> This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine. One week ago 3 guys broke into my shop while I was traveling. They had sense enough to power down the starlink that was providing internet which would have taken out all of the remote camera options. They did not realize that almost everything they were doing was being recorded via the unifi s…

How did you hide it so that the thieves didn't find it?

A 7U cabinet in an overhead space that is difficult to access. Installation and configuration were a bit of a headache but ended up being worth it. There was a NAS in the office and they stripped 7 drives, sleds and all, out of it.

I'm guessing with such an obvious endpoint for the camera storage it never occurred to anyone there was a second box. I had something like this in mind when I wired the building. It seemed like a good idea to make onsite security footage much harder to find given the cameras were obvious and anyone breaking in would probably look to damage or destroy the system.

I really thought the cameras themselves were the deterrent, but these guys gave it a shot anyway. Cutting the cable to the starlink and walking off with the NAS drives seemed to be the plan.

In the future I'm going to add a local battery backed alarm connected to external siren and strobe that is immediate on opening the office door to draw attention. I was driving down to WWDC when the starlink went offline and saw the notice on my phone but wrote it off to equipment failure which gave them enough time to clean the place out pretty well.

The hole in my strategy was thinking nothing could happen without notification, but being in a car in the middle of Norther CA with spotty cell coverage and lots of distractions blew that up pretty hard. I'm also thinking one of ubiquiti's cellular backups is in my future. Starlink offline is annoying but not the attention grabber that a still of a guy walking in the door would have been. Cellular backup would have gotten me that.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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> This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine. One week ago 3 guys broke into my shop while I was traveling. They had sense enough to power down the starlink that was providing internet which would have taken out all of the remote camera options. They did not realize that almost everything they were doing was being recorded via the unifi s…

Any video surveillance system is foiled by a simple mask. Thieves who know to plan a break-in when you're away usually do their homework and come prepared.

This is why I think someone should market a cheap SIGINT tool that collects BT/BTLE/Wi-Fi data from nearby devices.

I've got this setup running on a Raspberry Pi near my front door and it collects all sorts of useful data, even from people walking by on the sidewalk, 30 feet and two walls away.

At some point, I'd love to explore vehicle emissions more, too.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Any video surveillance system is foiled by a simple mask. Thieves who know to plan a break-in when you're away usually do their homework and come prepared.

This is why I think someone should market a cheap SIGINT tool that collects BT/BTLE/Wi-Fi data from nearby devices. I've got this setup running on a Raspberry Pi near my front door and it collects all sorts of useful data, even from people walking by on the sidewalk, 30 feet and two walls away. At some point, I'd love to explore vehicle emissions more, too.

No prosecutor is going to waste their time trying to convict someone based on metadata. Even video is often insufficient for a conviction.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I always forget that these things aren't for me. My immediate thought is always immediately "just build your own NAS with a vanilla Linux box and set up Samba or something because then you can make it however you want". But of course, if I'm someone who knows how to build a NAS and is inclined to do such a thing, then I'm sort of inherently not the kind of person that would be interested in such things and not the au…

I've been a sysadmin for decades, dealt with *nix based servers since the late 90s, yet for the most part I've used devices like Synology servers, simply because I don't want to have to manage technology to that degree at home. I've built my own NAS when my last synology died, and I'm not sure I'll build one again. I've dealt with all sorts of issues that I just haven't had to deal with with a packaged solution, and…

> I really just want to not think about that stuff when I'm not working.

This is my exact attitude but I don't have decades of sysadmin experience to lean on so I'm completely lost on what approach to take setting up my first NAS.

My requirements are simple: (1) Should be plug and play (hardware + software) (2) Must support ZFS since I already set up a pool in my beefy desktop PC.

What would you recommend? I've looked into Synology's offerings and they look perfect except for the fact that they don't support ZFS only Btrfs. I clicked into this thread expecting Ubiquiti's offering would be what I want, but all I see here is hardcore enterprise gear for the prosumer crowd.

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Have you priced a Supermicro box with 16 bays and SAS running Ubuntu?

I have, in pre-COVID days, though. The total bill including a skylake xeon E3-1285 v6 CPU, 64 GB ECC RAM, and the supermicro X11 board + chassis ( https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/archive/chassis/SC836... ) was under $1k.

The current-gen 3U SuperChassis alone is $1200USD.

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How did you hide it so that the thieves didn't find it?

A 7U cabinet in an overhead space that is difficult to access. Installation and configuration were a bit of a headache but ended up being worth it. There was a NAS in the office and they stripped 7 drives, sleds and all, out of it. I'm guessing with such an obvious endpoint for the camera storage it never occurred to anyone there was a second box. I had something like this in mind when I wired the building. It seemed…

I have found that the fog generating alarm systems are the ones that will stop burglars in their tracks.

If they can't see, they're not going to hang about and if they've tooled up with NV then that's a whole different threat model.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Have you priced a Supermicro box with 16 bays and SAS running Ubuntu?

I have, in pre-COVID days, though. The total bill including a skylake xeon E3-1285 v6 CPU, 64 GB ECC RAM, and the supermicro X11 board + chassis ( https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/archive/chassis/SC836... ) was under $1k.

Try again with 2026 RAM prices.
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