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Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I'm reminded of the Sun Fire X4500 "Thumper" for which ZFS was originally developed. 48 SATA drives packed in a slide-out rack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zQ5RLAyA7w

Then-still-independent Sun sold storage appliances, and during their development and debugging it was noticed that vibrations effected performance… by yelling at the drives:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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i like their gear, I bought a whole bunch, but I couldn't and can't figure out how to give my wife access to their Protect app as well. It's absurd to the point where their MFA sent doesn't work when trying to authorize her - and judging by reddit posts etc I'm not the only one. Such mundane things are where UI falls apart, wrong details. Instead of giving elves resources to pack each individual rackmount screw, if t…

I haven’t encountered this bug, but I have been frustrated that there’s no way to give a babysitter temporary access to the cameras in the kids’ rooms.

I ended up hosting a local site that embeds the RTSP feeds, which works pretty well, but I was surprised that there’s no native way to do it

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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post #166

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FYI: you should upgrade to 10gbe if your network is slow. It isn't that expensive these days: https://ben3d.ca/blog/home-network-lessons

Not sure if you've looked into this but you can ditch Bell's router with one of these: https://store.10gtek.com/1-25g-media-converter-sfp-slot-with... Or a non-copper equivalent in your case. You just need to use the VLAN IDs that Bell expects, see https://www.reddit.com/r/bell/s/uUltTdyqFC

I did end up ditching the modem since I wrote the article. I ended up using a TP-Link 8411 router though. Having everything TP-Link has its benefits for observability and maintenance.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

> This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine. One week ago 3 guys broke into my shop while I was traveling. They had sense enough to power down the starlink that was providing internet which would have taken out all of the remote camera options. They did not realize that almost everything they were doing was being recorded via the unifi s…

How did you hide it so that the thieves didn't find it?

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I'm glad to see UBNT in this space. I've always used ZFS because it's vastly superior to other options. When I see storage companies building without fault tolerance, or without a merkle tree (so that you can backup deltas efficiently without having to recompute them) it's a sign their marketing team has more influence over the company than their engineers. Sadly, the few ZFS COTS options have been somewhat underpowe…

The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

I've been so impressed with Ubiquiti that I've decided to target FreeBSD for my current side project. Their camera system is wonderful. Their DreamMachine is a massive upgrade for my home network. Their APs are rock solid, no hassle, just work, and it integrates so well. I have my work / home on different subnets. I have the kids on a different subnet and behind a firewall providing some protection against ads.

Very happy customer here.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

#176

I'm glad to see UBNT in this space. I've always used ZFS because it's vastly superior to other options. When I see storage companies building without fault tolerance, or without a merkle tree (so that you can backup deltas efficiently without having to recompute them) it's a sign their marketing team has more influence over the company than their engineers. Sadly, the few ZFS COTS options have been somewhat underpowe…

The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

Any way to get Protect iOS notifications if using local mode only? Eg, using local local login but away from home.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Ubiquiti's biggest feature is no monthly recurring cost. I really hope they continue the streak on products like this. Seems like anything else bought up these days is switched to an MRR model with no vision into the long term viability.

*yet They will at some point just cash out.

I don't believe this. They've been around since 2003, and the Unifi line started in 2010. If they were going to enshittify it would have happened by now. Cynicism is not always warranted.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I built a 12-bay NAS recently. I snagged a 5900X/Supermicro server board/128GB DDR4 ECC combo for only $680 on eBay right before memory prices went apeshit. It has IPMI and 2x10g. Suffice to say I belive you can roll your own appliance like this for considerably less money, and have far more control over it. I say this as a Unifi fanboi.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

#179

> with ... no firmware restrictions on drive models, organizations can scale capacity without being restricted by proprietary hardware ecosystems. This looks like a dig at Synology, who do this.

Synology also don't (didn't?) offer a ZFS product, which is why I bought a QNAP. Restriction-free and ZFS storage. Apparently you can also completely replace the OS if you want, although I haven't tried it.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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> Can you actually saturate the links with the spinning drives? There can easily be a bottleneck depending on how the setup the sata/sas, but if you can get sustained sequential reads or writes, 16x drives at 6 Gbps sata should be able to saturate 2x 25 Gbps ethernet. The store link shows two expansion ports as well which should help get bandwidth to the point where 25 Gbps is useful. Less likely with random reads/wr…

I must have had a bottle neck somewhere.

How did you configure the array? If you did a single RAID-Z2 say then uncached reads are limited about what a single disk will do. Writes should saturate though.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/05/zfs-versus-raid-eigh...

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