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Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Genuine question, if you're running unifi, why don't you want the management vm? Synology makes a decent NAS without the controller.

I like the hardware, cannot stand needing to run another machine just for management.

If you get one of the Cloud devices, you won't need to, as they bring their own.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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> I genuinely curious what bottlenecks you've hit. 1. My UDM Pro absolutely chokes and stalls with intrusion detection enabled on the firewall and 8 cameras connected. Network goes down, cameras disconnect, devices disconnect from Wi-Fi every time a car drives past a camera due to AI features triggering, etc. For something meant for small businesses I wish they would just shove an Intel i5 or something in it. They ma…

Unifi docs say that the AI feature run directly on the camera or via optional devices like the AI Port or AI Key. Odd that it impacts your UDM Pro and wifi.

Yeah . Sounds like horseshit to me to be frank.

I have a udm se, 10 g3 cams, 4k bullet+ai, door entry + cam +ai, couple of the display viewports running all day and a nano hd access point and symmetric gig with intrusion etc turned on. I also have wireguard users connecting in remotely.

No problems with performance whatsoever at this point.

Ok its not enterprisy its just a small business with 20 people but seems fine to me. I run synology servers.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I have heard others say the same as you about Ubiquiti devices. I genuinely curious what bottlenecks you've hit. I've only been using Ubiquiti as a pro-sumer, but it has held up well for my use case of Plex and little game servers. I use a Synology NAS for my storage though, which is a slightly beefier mobile AMD chipset. I'd be very interested to know what I should and shouldn't expect from my ARM based network stac…

> I genuinely curious what bottlenecks you've hit. 1. My UDM Pro absolutely chokes and stalls with intrusion detection enabled on the firewall and 8 cameras connected. Network goes down, cameras disconnect, devices disconnect from Wi-Fi every time a car drives past a camera due to AI features triggering, etc. For something meant for small businesses I wish they would just shove an Intel i5 or something in it. They ma…

1. Same here - but it's only become a problem as protect has gained features (# of cameras stayed the same). I got a UNVR Instant and all the issues went away (I have been waiting for an updated 1U NVR but still not out yet). It sucks, but otoh protect is light years better than it had been.

I dont mind using ARM for NAS, but (to be fair I have not looked in a while) the issue is they tend to not have many pcie lanes. Looks like the N2 can have up to 64 @pcie5 so if it's built well, I don't think the CPU will be too much of a bottleneck.

Hell I'll put it out there - some company should make a NAS-specific ARM chip line to make lines of way less expensive (well pre the current troubles) base NAS enclosures with lots of NVMe etc.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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> I genuinely curious what bottlenecks you've hit. 1. My UDM Pro absolutely chokes and stalls with intrusion detection enabled on the firewall and 8 cameras connected. Network goes down, cameras disconnect, devices disconnect from Wi-Fi every time a car drives past a camera due to AI features triggering, etc. For something meant for small businesses I wish they would just shove an Intel i5 or something in it. They ma…

1. Same here - but it's only become a problem as protect has gained features (# of cameras stayed the same). I got a UNVR Instant and all the issues went away (I have been waiting for an updated 1U NVR but still not out yet). It sucks, but otoh protect is light years better than it had been. I dont mind using ARM for NAS, but (to be fair I have not looked in a while) the issue is they tend to not have many pcie lanes…

Yeah mine solved once I got a UNVR as well but I would have rather paid for a better processor in the UDM Pro and not needed to buy a separate UNVR.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

Can I use it without running some inane management VM?

The UDM runs mine, but prior to that I ran a Docker container with it. It worked well.

https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/unifi-controller

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Is this some xBSD or UniFi OS (debian) with ZFSoL? Can't tell from what they've written. 8C+64GB: enough for essential block+file service, but not for dedup and other demanding ZFS features. Also, doesn't appear the controller is redundant; just the power supplies. iSCSI is headlined; nice they didn't limit this to file. No mention of object store, or NVMe-oF. Seems like a nice, basic, affordable platform for workgro…

Their other UNAS devices are based on debian11. I'm curious what the bootdrive on the ENAS runs since ZFS is dkms on debian

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I'm glad to see UBNT in this space. I've always used ZFS because it's vastly superior to other options. When I see storage companies building without fault tolerance, or without a merkle tree (so that you can backup deltas efficiently without having to recompute them) it's a sign their marketing team has more influence over the company than their engineers. Sadly, the few ZFS COTS options have been somewhat underpowe…

The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

The cost is just insane though. $4-$500 for a camera that I can get equivalent specs for $50-100.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Been a long time fan of Ubiquiti, and I think this product will do particularly well in small-medium businesses. Think of the local marketing firm with 40 employees. They likely have an office with Unifi networking, and they LIKELY hire an MSP to do their IT work. An MSP will easily try to sell this as their storage solution since they can manage the infrastructure with one login to the UBNT dashboard.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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i like their gear, I bought a whole bunch, but I couldn't and can't figure out how to give my wife access to their Protect app as well. It's absurd to the point where their MFA sent doesn't work when trying to authorize her - and judging by reddit posts etc I'm not the only one. Such mundane things are where UI falls apart, wrong details. Instead of giving elves resources to pack each individual rackmount screw, if t…

I created a user for my wife, set up the Protect App on her phone and she has the same access to the cameras as me.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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They are already a public company.

You can take a public company private and then run it to the ground. See also: Twitter.

How does that work now they are a subsidiary of SpaceX?

Does that make the rotting corpse of Twitter public again?

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