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Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

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Re: Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

#151
Social engagement circuitry in your brain is in other parts than dedicated internal conversation logic thought streams.

By talking to someone else, you're simply mobilizing a different set of circuitry and thinking approaches.

It's like you switched llm models

I don't think this is particularly a complicated phenomenon

Re: Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

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It started out as an interesting read, until I got to this paragraph: > The value didn't come from what was said at that moment. It came from what had been built across many such moments: a pattern of mutual recognition, a shared context, a baseline of trust that made the later exchange possible. The relationship was the infrastructure. The conversation was where it had been built, one cup of coffee at a time. And th…

lol Pangram says 100% of this was written by AI

Re: Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

#153
post #126

It started out as an interesting read, until I got to this paragraph: > The value didn't come from what was said at that moment. It came from what had been built across many such moments: a pattern of mutual recognition, a shared context, a baseline of trust that made the later exchange possible. The relationship was the infrastructure. The conversation was where it had been built, one cup of coffee at a time. And th…

Similar: as soon as I see that LLM style I bail out, you can't trust the content. If they can't be arsed to write it, why TF should I be arsed to read it.

fwiw Pangram says 100% of the original article was written by AI

Re: Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

#154

It started out as an interesting read, until I got to this paragraph: > The value didn't come from what was said at that moment. It came from what had been built across many such moments: a pattern of mutual recognition, a shared context, a baseline of trust that made the later exchange possible. The relationship was the infrastructure. The conversation was where it had been built, one cup of coffee at a time. And th…

how can you tell it's llm that wrote this paragraph

fwiw Pangram says 100% of the original article was written by AI

Re: Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

#155

It started out as an interesting read, until I got to this paragraph: > The value didn't come from what was said at that moment. It came from what had been built across many such moments: a pattern of mutual recognition, a shared context, a baseline of trust that made the later exchange possible. The relationship was the infrastructure. The conversation was where it had been built, one cup of coffee at a time. And th…

This shit gets me irrationally mad. Well, the existence of such content doesn't, but the fact that other people aren't disdained by it (this dogshit has almost 300 upvotes on _HN_ right now) is what gets me.

fwiw Pangram says 100% of the original article was written by AI

Re: Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

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post #20

I don't think the out loud or someone listening / reacting matters at all here. Suspect it's entirely this: >The thought that was comfortable as a vague impression has to become a sentence, and sentences have structure. It's not unlike what people like PG say about writing improving thinking...it's the being forced to go from fuzzy directional notions to something you can put on paper in that will stand up to critiqu…

fwiw Pangram says 100% of the original article was written by AI

Re: Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

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post #3

In 2017 LLMs weren't powerful enough to generate working code on their own, but my goal was to at least create a chatbot that could help you rubber-duck-debug your way to a solution. Unfortunately the tech wasn't quite strong enough for that, and not enough engineers even knew what rubber-duck-debugging was. RIP Duckly. Trying to train an LLM on two 1080ti's on the StackOverflow corpus in my living room was a vibe th…

fwiw Pangram says 100% of the original article was written by AI

Re: Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

#158
post #12
post #3

In 2017 LLMs weren't powerful enough to generate working code on their own, but my goal was to at least create a chatbot that could help you rubber-duck-debug your way to a solution. Unfortunately the tech wasn't quite strong enough for that, and not enough engineers even knew what rubber-duck-debugging was. RIP Duckly. Trying to train an LLM on two 1080ti's on the StackOverflow corpus in my living room was a vibe th…

Duckly deserved to actually work. There’s a small irony here: the closest study I found to this, robots specifically built to simulate attentive listening, found they performed no better than an actual inanimate rubber duck for adult engineers. The mechanical signal of listening doesn’t seem to be the active ingredient. Makes me wonder if Duckly would have needed real disagreement to close a gap a duck can’t, not jus…

fwiw Pangram says 100% of the original article was written by AI

Re: Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

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post #2

OMG - strong vibes to Einstein crediting Michele Besso, his colleague at the Swiss Patent Office, with helping him discussing some concepts in the special relativity paper: see at the end of the paper https://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf

fwiw Pangram says 100% of the original article was written by AI

Re: Why thinking out loud with someone beats thinking alone

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post #123

In the nineties I was a junior copywriter at BMP DDB in London. The creative department was made up of loads of small offices, each with a two-person creative team working out loud all day. The best ideas rarely came from one person thinking alone. Someone would say something half-formed about a brief and their partner would catch it, often bouncing ideas back and forth. Reckon the whole building ran on that. Well, a…

btw Pangram says 100% of the original article was written by AI
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